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2003-12-18 WS0667 YUL YYC ---- ---- 73G Adam Smith
2004-02-20 WS0667 YUL YYC ---- ---- 73G Adam Smith
2004-02-29 WS0668 YYC YUL ---- ---- 73G Adam Smith
2004-06-07 UA0810 SFO YYC 1117 ---- 733 Adam Smith (not in FlightAware)


According to YUL Homepage WS0667 left YUL on 13.12.03 at 12:15 and on 10.02.04 at 12:05
According to YYC Homepage WA0667 arrived YYC on 12.12.03 at 14:38
According to YUL Homepage WS0668 arrived in YUL on 09.02.04 at 21:17
According to YYC Homepage WA0668 left YYC on 03.02.04 at 15:20

With about 4 hrs flighttime and 2 hrs time difference the times make sense.

UA0810 flew according to timetable UA 01.06.2004 10:55 14:30. I attached also the page with flights from YYC from the UA timetable since I know you like elimination ;)
 

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According to YUL Homepage WS0667 left YUL on 13.12.03 at 12:15 and on 10.02.04 at 12:05
According to YYC Homepage WA0667 arrived YYC on 12.12.03 at 14:38
According to YUL Homepage WS0668 arrived in YUL on 09.02.04 at 21:17
According to YYC Homepage WA0668 left YYC on 03.02.04 at 15:20

With about 4 hrs flighttime and 2 hrs time difference the times make sense.

UA0810 flew according to timetable UA 01.06.2004 10:55 14:30. I attached also the page with flights from YYC from the UA timetable since I know you like elimination ;)

Thanks :) Are these scheduled or actual times?

Looks pretty clear the UA810 aircraft would have continued to DEN as UA1270 then. Unfortunately, I don't know that there's much hope of using process of elimination in those two huge UA hubs! I tried this with the ORD-YYC flight that I'm missing, which I think I continued to SFO, and there were so many possibilities in the BTS data, I just couldn't figure it out. And, of course, if the aircraft operated an international flight to SFO or from DEN before/after the YYC flights, then BTS becomes essentially useless. I'd also have to look at UA's 733 fleet around that time. Those AC CR9 flights that I was tracking down that way were somewhat manageable because the fleet was only 16, and also had quite a few ACARS captures around Canada and the US that made it possible to figure out what aircraft could have operated the routes. Even then, I have a couple that I haven't been able to identify because there are several possible candidates that can't be ruled out.

But I might give it a try anyway!
 

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Thanks :) Are these scheduled or actual times?

Looks pretty clear the UA810 aircraft would have continued to DEN as UA1270 then. Unfortunately, I don't know that there's much hope of using process of elimination in those two huge UA hubs! I tried this with the ORD-YYC flight that I'm missing, which I think I continued to SFO, and there were so many possibilities in the BTS data, I just couldn't figure it out. And, of course, if the aircraft operated an international flight to SFO or from DEN before/after the YYC flights, then BTS becomes essentially useless. I'd also have to look at UA's 733 fleet around that time. Those AC CR9 flights that I was tracking down that way were somewhat manageable because the fleet was only 16, and also had quite a few ACARS captures around Canada and the US that made it possible to figure out what aircraft could have operated the routes. Even then, I have a couple that I haven't been able to identify because there are several possible candidates that can't be ruled out.

But I might give it a try anyway!
According to YYC Homepage WA0667 arrived YYC on 12.12.03 at 14:38
According to YUL Homepage WS0668 arrived in YUL on 09.02.04 at 21:17
These both were acutal while the others are scheduled
 
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Okay, here's are all of my friend's missing flights. The first 4 aren't in BTS. TZ is listed, but no data is returned for any of the relevant dates.

For the others, they're not in FlightAware or FlightStats. For the WN flights, I have the FlightAware links, but there's no registration associated with them. A couple of FlightMemory users were on the WN1804 along with my friend, but unfortunately neither of them tracks tail numbers. The EVS-operated AC flights don't even show up in FlightAware. And of course acarsd.org is useless after 2011 or so.

I found a copy of the TZ timetable from October 31, 1999 on eBay which my friend said he'd buy, so I may have those flight numbers and times soon.

1999-11-13 TZ---- CLE LAS ---- ---- 722 Adam Smith
1999-11-17 TZ---- LAS CLE ---- ---- 722 Adam Smith
2000-11-11 TZ8061 CLE LAS 1455 1625 722 Adam Smith
2000-11-15 TZ8056 LAS CLE 1130 1825 722 Adam Smith
2014-07-01 WN1804 BWI AUA 0830 1300 73G Adam Smith
2014-07-03 WN1806 AUA BWI 1355 1810 73G Adam Smith
2014-07-11 WN1857 BWI NAS 1335 1610 73G Adam Smith
2014-07-13 WN1858 AUA BWI 1705 1940 73G Adam Smith
2014-07-20 WN0272 MCO MBJ 1135 1235 73G Adam Smith
2014-07-22 WN1183 MBJ ATL 1530 1925 73G Adam Smith
2014-08-10 WN1134 ATL CUN 0910 1050 73G Adam Smith
2014-08-12 WN1135 CUN ATL 1140 1515 73G Adam Smith
2014-08-28 WN0624 SNA SJD 1205 1525 73G Adam Smith
2014-08-30 WN0631 SJD SNA 1610 1735 73G Adam Smith
2014-11-02 WN0811 BWI PUJ 0845 1340 73G Adam Smith
2014-11-04 WN1999 PUJ MDW 1809 2125 73G Adam Smith
2015-02-14 WN0652 SAT MEX 1139 1342 73G Adam Smith
2015-02-15 WN0318 MEX SAT 1600 1805 73G Adam Smith
2015-06-13 CM0117 PTY SCL 1211 2047 738 Adam Smith
2015-08-01 WN0394 BWI SJD 0846 1145 73G Adam Smith
2015-08-03 WN0631 AUA BWI 1230 1336 73G Adam Smith
2016-06-11 AC7764 YHZ YQM 2318 2354 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2016-06-12 AC7759 YQM YHZ 0605 0644 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2016-06-26 AC7759 YQM YHZ 0610 0645 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2017-01-01 4O7300 MEX CUN 0830 1130 SU1 Adam Smith
2017-01-28 4O0904 CUN HAV 1500 1610 320 Adam Smith
2017-07-11 MY0015 CUN CZM 1300 1320 D28 Adam Smith
2018-05-13 CM0505 AUA PTY 1322 1428 E90 Adam Smith
2018-05-25 AC7807 YYR YQX 1955 2215 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-26 AC7782 YQX YYT 0520 0617 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-26 AC7807 YYR YQX 1947 2155 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-27 AC7782 YQX YYT 0530 0639 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-27 AC7807 YYR YQX 1958 2213 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7782 YQX YYT 0515 0605 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7752 YHZ YYG 1203 1250 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7753 YYG YHZ 1303 1345 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7760 YHZ YQM 1405 1447 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7763 YQM YHZ 1515 1549 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7762 YHZ YQM 1628 1710 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7765 YQM YHZ 1726 1804 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7756 YHZ YYG 1845 1938 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-28 AC7757 YYG YHZ 1950 2030 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-29 AC7782 YQX YYT 0520 0612 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-29 AC7752 YHZ YYG 1215 1302 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-05-29 AC7753 YYG YHZ 1315 1405 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)
2018-07-16 MY0028 CUN CZM 1040 1110 D28 Adam Smith
2018-07-17 MY0007 CZM CUN 1500 1530 D28 Adam Smith
 
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I expected that it won't be easy since you've already checked so many sources.

After a quick check I only found these

2018-08-28 AC7752 YHZ YYG 1203 1250 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GLXV
2018-08-28 AC7753 YYG YHZ 1303 1345 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GLXV
2018-08-29 AC7782 YQX YYT 0520 0612 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GORI

S. Flightera
 

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Crap, I have to apologize, I typed the month wrong for that huge block of AC flights, it was May and not August :oops::cry:
Got one hit more :)


2018-05-25 AC7807 YYR YQX 1955 2215 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GAAT
2018-05-26 AC7807 YYR YQX 1947 2155 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GAAT
2018-05-27 AC7782 YQX YYT 0530 0639 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GORZ
2018-05-28 AC7765 YQM YHZ 1726 1804 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GLXV

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Got one hit more :)


2018-05-25 AC7807 YYR YQX 1955 2215 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GAAT
2018-05-26 AC7807 YYR YQX 1947 2155 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GAAT
2018-05-27 AC7782 YQX YYT 0530 0639 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GORZ
2018-05-28 AC7765 YQM YHZ 1726 1804 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GLXV

S. Flightera

Fantastisch! Vielen Dank!

The 7765 also solves this one, because it was an immediate turn on the same aircraft:

2018-05-28 AC7762 YHZ YQM 1628 1710 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GLXV

The other three might also solve some additional segments (to/from YQX), but with the aircraft RON, hard to say for sure as there may have been more than one BEH sitting on the ground overnight at YQX. But I'll check with my friend, as he might remember having the same plane overnight.
 

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For the WN flights I don't have much hope. When Flightaware and also Flightradar haven't registered the reg then I believe on ACARS was sent from plane

I checked all WN flights on Flightradar via wayback and got for all the same result: registered departure and arrival time but seldom information for the reg. Here the example for WN1183.
 

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2018-07-18 LX1176 ZRH-STR DHC-8 flo.e OE-LGR
2018-07-19 LX1175 STR-ZRH DHC-8 flo.e OE-LGP

2013-06-29 LX0456 ZRH-LCY BAE146 flo.e HB-IXR
2013/06/29 09:27;SWR45C;LX0456;ZRH-LCY;HB-IXR;4B1787;Swiss;RJ1H

2012-08-26 AB8456 HAM-ZRH A320 flo.e HB-IOW
2012/08/26 19:41;BER821Y;AB8456;HAM-ZRH;HB-IOW 1;4B16A2;Air Berlin;A320


2017-03-17 EW7765 ZRH-HAM A320 flo.e
Hast du für diesen Flug die Uhrzeit? Wenn 20:20 dann als ER4767 geflogen
2017/03/17 19:51;EWG4767;EWG4767;-;D-AEWS;3C56F3;Eurowings;A320


2012-01-15 LH0731 HKG-ZRH A340 flo.e
Bist du sicher mit der Flugnummer/Routing?
LH0731 = HKG-MUC = 2012/01/16 02:07;DLH731;LH0731;HKG-MUC;D-AIHO 1;3C650F;Lufthansa;A346
LX0139 = HKG-ZRH = 2012/01/16 01:28;SWR139;LX0139;HKG-ZRH;HB-JMA;4B18FC;Swiss;A343


PS. Auch wenn es evtl. nervt, bitte die Flugnummer mit vier Ziffern: DL40 = DL0040. Danke (y)
vielen dank!
 

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These were found after my friend found another folder with old pictures with the aircraft fleet number visible in one:

2016-06-11 AC7764 YHZ YQM 2318 2354 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GORZ
2016-06-12 AC7759 YQM YHZ 0605 0644 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-GORZ

He's thinking about those 7807/7782 pairings and whether the ones you provided earlier would have been other cases where they had the same aircraft overnight. He also thought that a bunch of those other 2018-05-28 flights might have been on the same aircraft, so the C-GLXV might solve a few more. TBD.

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For the WN flights I don't have much hope. When Flightaware and also Flightradar haven't registered the reg then I believe on ACARS was sent from plane

I checked all WN flights on Flightradar via wayback and got for all the same result: registered departure and arrival time but seldom information for the reg. Here the example for WN1183.

I don't know what's up with those WN flights. It seems odd that no ACARS signal would have been sent? Because these flights were definitely tracked - here's the WN1804, for instance. I just don't know why there was no tail number associated with it.

Regarding this flight: How sure are you about the flightnumber? I found on flightera for depatures in AUA the following flight

If this is your flight then the reg is HP-1567CMP

This one is interesting. P5 is obviously a subsidiary of CM, and it's the right flight number, so that would sort of make sense (although I would have thought that P5 would only operate flights to/from Colombia - weird that it would run a PTY-AUA flight) What's odd is that, as far as I can tell, that aircraft didn't belong to P5 at any time - P5 fleet and HP-1567CMP history from PlaneSpotters. The FlightAware page doesn't contain the tail number, even though I have an even earlier one for another CM E90 segment (one of my own flights) that does have the tail number, but it doesn't mention the flight being operated by P5, which would be good for the tail you found.

So, I'm inclined to think the tail number you found is correct (HP-1567CMP), and that the FlightEra page is just wrong about the operating carrier. Was denkst du?
 

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This one is interesting. P5 is obviously a subsidiary of CM, and it's the right flight number, so that would sort of make sense (although I would have thought that P5 would only operate flights to/from Colombia - weird that it would run a PTY-AUA flight) What's odd is that, as far as I can tell, that aircraft didn't belong to P5 at any time - P5 fleet and HP-1567CMP history from PlaneSpotters. The FlightAware page doesn't contain the tail number, even though I have an even earlier one for another CM E90 segment (one of my own flights) that does have the tail number, but it doesn't mention the flight being operated by P5, which would be good for the tail you found.

So, I'm inclined to think the tail number you found is correct (HP-1567CMP), and that the FlightEra page is just wrong about the operating carrier. Was denkst du?

I think you are right. The tail number is the correct one but the flight number prefix Flightera shows is the wrong one. I check the Aurba homepage but like most of the times they have everything except the year you looking for.
So I checked 30.06.2019 and the departure table shows CM505 while Flightera still shows P5505. Screenshot 2023-01-02 220422.jpg
 

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2014-08-28 WN0624 SNA SJD 1205 1525 73G Adam Smith

For this one I found N903WN in http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/acars.php?f=2014/2014_08_28.log.csv
Given that these logs claim to be from Gaithersburg, MD, I'd take this with a pinch of salt. Maybe the data is gathered in multiple locations (at least the time would match)? I couldn't find any evidence that WN624 had other legs before SNA-SJD...

Others:
solved 2014-08-10 WN1134 ATL CUN 0910 1050 73G Adam Smith N7739A
solved 2015-06-13 CM0117 PTY SCL 1211 2047 738 Adam Smith HP-1725CMP
solved 2017-01-01 4O7300 MEX CUN 0830 1130 SU1 Adam Smith XA-ILY
solved 2017-01-28 4O0904 CUN HAV 1500 1610 320 Adam Smith XA-MYR
 

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I think you are right. The tail number is the correct one but the flight number prefix Flightera shows is the wrong one. I check the Aurba homepage but like most of the times they have everything except the year you looking for.
So I checked 30.06.2019 and the departure table shows CM505 while Flightera still shows P5505.

Excellent, thanks :) We'll call this one found:

2018-05-13 CM0505 AUA PTY 1322 1428 Adam Smith HP-1567CMP

2014-08-28 WN0624 SNA SJD 1205 1525 73G Adam Smith

For this one I found N903WN in http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/acars.php?f=2014/2014_08_28.log.csv
Given that these logs claim to be from Gaithersburg, MD, I'd take this with a pinch of salt. Maybe the data is gathered in multiple locations (at least the time would match)? I couldn't find any evidence that WN624 had other legs before SNA-SJD...

This is a strange one. WN is horrible for recycling flight numbers throughout the day (not always with the same aircraft!), but those international ones are usually only once a day, BTS doesn't show any domestic legs with that flight number that month, and it would be unlike WN to use the same flight number for something like CUN-SNA-SJD. BTS doesn't have N903WN on any flights in or out of WAS airports that day, so it's not obvious what the correct flight number might have been for that hit.

There are a lot of eastern seaboard routes that N903WN could have been on and triggered that alert in Maryland. But looking through the other flights that were picked up, all the ones I looked up appear to be flights in and out of or flying overhead/nearby the WAS area. I also don't see N903WN arriving at or departing SNA on the 27th, 28th, or 29th, and since WN is mostly domestic, if it truly operated that SNA-SJD flight (and would have probably returned SJD-SNA), it would likely do a domestic flight before and/or after the SJD turn.

I don't like that I can't identify the cause of the error, but it seems like that's what it must be? I can't see how else an ACARS log in Maryland would pick up a transmission from that flight.

Others:
solved 2014-08-10 WN1134 ATL CUN 0910 1050 73G Adam Smith N7739A
solved 2015-06-13 CM0117 PTY SCL 1211 2047 738 Adam Smith HP-1725CMP
solved 2017-01-01 4O7300 MEX CUN 0830 1130 SU1 Adam Smith XA-ILY
solved 2017-01-28 4O0904 CUN HAV 1500 1610 320 Adam Smith XA-MYR

These all make sense, thank you! :)
 

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@kanamoney please don't update earlier existing posts (I will not check / recognize your updates...)
-> I'm keeping track of the reg search list with monthly updates on this thread so ideally post your (consolidated) updated findings or search updates in consecutive postings here 🙏
And: pls clarify what to do with your search list entry about UA1893 EWR CLE, if it was canceled? Remove it from the list?

@bursche99 Sorry about that! I'll remember this for future. And I'll also make sure I stick to forum format, my apologies. I have put the consolidated findings in this post so you can update them properly. Regarding UA1893...it seems it was definitely canceled so yeah, you can remove it. I have no idea how I actually got home! :ROFLMAO:

@SaschaX99 2013-08-13 DL0363 ATL-MEX 0955 1220 B738 kanamoney N37311
Could this possibly be N3731T instead? There doesn't seem to be a plane registered N37311, but there is a Delta 738 which is registered N3731T. Just want to make sure!

Happy to report you guys have helped find almost everything I have. The first three are remaining from my original post:

1999-12-01 DL5206 DTW-CVG 1100 1204 CRJ1 kanamoney
1999-12-01 DL5641 CVG-IAH 1245 1415 CRJ1 kanamoney
2016-04-10 UA???? ATL-IAH 0710 0810 E75L kanamoney N88330

Regarding the two Comair flights, I'd imagine it will be tough to find the registrations since I think we've looked through a lot of stuff, but some small additional information - Sascha found the arr/dep time and mentioned both of them were CRJs; as per airfleets Comair's first CRJ-200ER began service 2000-06-28, so I'm fairly certain it would be two CRJ-100ERs - and it would have to be only the CRJ-100ERs in this link which shows as "active from" date before 1999/12: - https://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Comair (Delta Connection)-history-crj-0-ddasc.htm

In addition to those three, I have one additional one which I do have the full information for, but want to make sure it's correct, if someone can check it - I found the registration for this one in an ACARS log of the US east coast (I think it was a NYC area log) but it also showed some different flights under the same reg at the same time, which didn't quite add up, so not 100% sure if registration is correct.

2017-05-30 UA140 IAD-BCN 1740 0745 B764 kanamoney N76064?

Thank you all very much again for the help with fill ins, very much appreciated!

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Updated/consolidated findings, to summarize my original post without edits - all of the below are found:

2013-08-17 DL511 MEX-DTW 0835 1402 A319 kanamoney N342NB
2016-06-05 UA952 ORD-MUC 1830 1030 B77E kanamoney N781UA
2016-06-13 SG1041 HYD-TIR 0650 0800 DH8D kanamoney VT-SUK
2016-06-13 2T108 TIR-HYD 2030 2150 AT75 kanamoney VT-TMU
2016-06-18 6E684 VTZ-HYD 1650 1800 A320 kanamoney VT-IES
2016-06-18 6E684 HYD-DEL 1830 2030 A320 kanamoney VT-IES
2016-08-05 UA3449 ATL-IAH 0915 1028 E170 kanamoney N638RW
2016-08-05 UA1418 IAH-YYC 1250 1615 B739 kanamoney N71411
2016-08-12 UA614 YYC-ORD 0806 1241 B738 kanamoney N13248
2017-08-02 LH1809 BCN-MUC 0915 1115 A321 kanamoney D-AIDP
2017-08-02 UA31 MUC-EWR 1315 1614 B763 kanamoney N658UA
 
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2016-04-10 UA???? ATL-IAH 0710 0810 E75L kanamoney N88330

Are those times based on a booking confirmation or something like that? FlightStats has UA6301, operated by Mesa, scheduled 0757 0920, actual 0755 0911 on that date, operated by N88330. So perhaps there was a schedule change between when you booked and date of travel?

2017-05-30 UA140 IAD-BCN 1740 0745 B764 kanamoney N76064?

FlightStats confirms N76064
 
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solved 2017-01-01 4O7300 MEX CUN 0830 1130 SU1 Adam Smith XA-ILY

@euul, I'm curious on your source on this? I noticed this was a 320, whereas I was expecting a Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SU1 or SU9, I'm not sure). Just for kicks, I looked this flight up on FlightStats again, and even though there was definitely no tail a few months back when I first did, it's now showing a registration, but now it's showing XA-VFI.
 

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Are those times based on a booking confirmation or something like that? FlightStats has UA6301, operated by Mesa, scheduled 0757 0920, actual 0755 0911 on that date, operated by N88330. So perhaps there was a schedule change between when you booked and date of travel?

Just went back and checked on a hunch, and I think at least the departure time is from the timestamp on an image in my Google Photos history, haha. 7:10 departure time matches a wingview pic I took at the gate during boarding. Not sure where the arrival time is from - but no matter, it checks out anywho. Thanks!

2016-04-10 UA6301 ATL-IAH 0757 0920 E75L kanamoney N88330 found
2017-05-30 UA140 IAD-BCN 1740 0745 B764 kanamoney N76064 found
 
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Es passt hier vielleicht nicht perfekt, daher bei Bedarf gerne verschieben: In der SAS-App gibt es jetzt eine Art persönliches Travellog, der auch alle Regs. der absolvierten SAS-Flüge enthält; bei mir seit 2019. Das könnte für den einen oder anderen eine spannende Resource sein. Kenne ich so von keiner anderen Airline
 

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@SaschaX99 2013-08-13 DL0363 ATL-MEX 0955 1220 B738 kanamoney N37311
Could this possibly be N3731T instead? There doesn't seem to be a plane registered N37311, but there is a Delta 738 which is registered N3731T. Just want to make sure!

2013-08-13 DL0363 ATL-MEX 0955 1220 B738 kanamoney N3731T

I have to apologize. You're right with N3731T.
TBH I have no idea what my fingers have done cuz 1 and T are not close on the keyboard😮
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2013-08-13 DL0363 ATL-MEX 0955 1220 B738 kanamoney N3731T

I have to apologize. You're right with N3731T.
TBH I have no idea what my fingers have done cuz 1 and T are not close on the keyboard😮

Haha no worries! Thanks for checking again.

2013-08-13 DL0363 ATL-MEX 0955 1220 B738 kanamoney N3731T found