LX: Frage, Umbuchung Economy Saver (K)

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Kurze Frage, eine gute Freundin von mir hat ein Economy Saver Ticket (K) auf LX für die Strecke ZRH-BOS-ZRH; auf Grund von einer Terminverschiebung möchte sie jetzt einen Tag früher fliegen, und eigentlich wäre NYC jetzt präferiert für den Hinflug; der Rückflug ex BOS passt aber noch.

Gemäß Fare Rules ist ein Umbuchen gegen eine Gebühr von CHF 210 möglich (plus eventuelle Differenz im Tarif). Wie schaut es aber aus mit der Änderung der Destination? Ist nachträglich das Einfügen eines Open Jaw möglich? Oder ist ihre einzige Chance, einfach den Flug auf einen Tag früher zu verlegen und einen separaten Flug BOS-NYC-BOS zu buchen?

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Departing ZRH on 11/03/15 for BOS
Fare basis code KJXNCZEU
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Routing via North Atlantic

Rule Category                           Rule Text

[...]
                                        
DAY/TIME                                   PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC
                                           SECTOR.
                                        
SEASONALITY                                PERMITTED 17FEB15 THROUGH 20MAR15 OR 01NOV15 THROUGH
                                           15DEC15 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON
                                           IS BASED ON DATE OF ORIGIN.
                                        
[...]

                                        
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING             CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
                                           LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
                                           TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER
                                           RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE
                                           DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED AT TIME OF TICKETING.
                                                  TIME OF TICKETING IS DEFINED ACCORDING TO TICKET
                                                  TIME LIMIT. IF TTL IS NOT RESPECTED ALL SEGMENTS
                                                  WILL BE CANCELLED.
                                                  ----
                                                  DUE TO AUTOMATED TICKETING DEADLINE CONTROL
                                                  DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN THE FARE RULE
                                                  LAST TICKETING DATE AND THE SYSTEM GENERATED
                                                  TICKETING DEADLINE MESSAGE.
                                                  THE MORE RESTRICTIVE TICKETING DEADLINE APPLIES.
                                                  ----
                                                  ANY RESERVATION FOR FARES WITH TICKETING DEADLINE
                                                  NOT TICKETED AT LEAST 26 HOURS
                                                  BEFORE DEPARTURE WILL BE CANCELLED. THIS APPLIES
                                                  IN ADDITION TO THE ABOVE MENTIONED DEADLINES.
                                                  RESERVATIONS MADE WITHIN 26 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE
                                                  REQUIRE TICKETING AT THE SAME TIME.
                                        
MINIMUM STAY                               TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
                                           NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
                                           OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
                                        
MAXIMUM STAY                               TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
                                           3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
                                        
STOPOVERS                                  STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
                                        
TRANSFERS                                  5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                                 3 PERMITTED IN AREA 2 IN EACH DIRECTION
                                                 2 PERMITTED IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION.
                                           FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
                                           SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  UNLESS RESTRICTED BY ROUTING ATTACHED TO FARE
                                                  RECORDS.
                                        
COMBINATIONS                               END-ON-END
                                             END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH FARES WITHIN
                                             AREA 1. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
                                             PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER UA/AC.
                                           OPEN JAWS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED. MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/
                                              LESS THAN MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE
                                              COMPONENT.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
                                               -WITHIN AREA 1/WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3
                                                COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/UA/
                                                AC
                                                OR FOR CARRIER OS/LX/SN IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                                IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                                IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                                IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                                VIA ATL
                                                IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
                                                MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
                                                AREA 3.
                                           ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
                                             FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
                                             -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
                                             -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
                                              A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
                                              PERMITTED.
                                             PROVIDED -
                                               COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER LH/UA/
                                               AC/OS/LX/SN IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
                                               IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
                                               IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
                                               VIA ATL
                                               IPRSAA3 - SOUTH ATLANTIC/CENTRAL/SOUTH AMERICA/
                                               MEXICO/CARIBBEAN/GREENLAND/ST PIERRE ET MIQUELON -
                                               AREA 3.
                                        
BLACKOUT DATES                             NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
[...]
                                        
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL                         ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
                                        
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS                        VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 15DEC15.
                                        
SALES RESTRICTIONS                         FOOTNOTE RULE
                                           TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 28FEB15.
                                         
                                           GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                           TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN IRAN/VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA.
                                           TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
                                                  GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER.  CONTACT
                                                  CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
                                                  --------------------------------------------------
                                                  SEQUENTIAL USE OF FLIGHT COUPONS
                                                  THIS FARE IS ONLY VALID IF THE FLIGHTS ARE TAKEN
                                                  IN THE BOOKED SEQUENCE. OTHERWISE THE FARE WILL BE
                                                  RECALCULATED BASED ON THE ACTUAL FLIGHT ROUTING.
                                        
PENALTIES                                  CANCELLATIONS
                                           
                                             TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
                                               WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE
                                                  REFUND RULES APPLY PER PRICING UNIT.
                                                  IN CASE OF FARE COMBINATION THE MOST RESTRICTIVE
                                                  CANCELLATION CONDITION APPLIES FOR THE ENTIRE
                                                  PRICING UNIT
                                                  FULL REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF
                                                  REJECTION OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.
                                                  REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES PERMITTED.
                                                  - EXCEPT FOR PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE APPLICABLE
                                                  TO U.S. AIRPORTS.
                                                  UNLESS APPLICABLE OW/RT FARE PLUS TAXES FOR ACTUAL
                                                  TRAVEL IS HIGHER THAN WHOLE  ORIGINAL TICKET. IN
                                                  THIS CASE
                                                  NO TAX OR FEE REFUND WILL BE PERMITTED.
                                                  FOR  NON REFUNDABLE TICKETS THE YQ/YR SURCHARGE
                                                  WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
                                                  THE OPTIONAL PAYMENT CHARGE IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
                                           
                                           CHANGES
                                           
                                             ANY TIME
                                               CHARGE CHF 210.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
                                               WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  WAIVERS MUST BE EVIDENCED BY DEATH CERTIFICATE
                                                  RULES FOR CHANGES APPLY BY FARE
                                                  COMPONENT/DIRECTION. IN CASE OF FARE COMBINATION
                                                  CHARGE THE  HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                                  COMPONENTS.
                                                  CHANGE FEE APPLIES FOR EVERY SINGLE CLOSED
                                                  REISSUE/REVALIDATION/REBOOKING TRANSACTION.
                                                  CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.
                                                  INFANT WITHOUT SEAT FREE OF
                                                  CHARGE.
                                                  CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOW. REFER
                                                  TO REFUND SECTION.
                                                  FOR CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE ALL CONDITIONS OF
                                                  THE NEW FARE MUST BE COMPLIED WITH INCLUDING
                                                  ADVANCE PURCHASE.
                                                  IN CASE OF CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE ADVANCE
                                                  PURCHASE CAN BE IGNORED.
                                                  UPGRADING TO A HIGHER FARE PERMITTED. DOWNGRADING
                                                  TO A LOWER FARE NOT PERMITTED.IN CASE OF UPGRADING
                                                  TO A HIGHER FARE  CHARGE CHF 210.00 AND CHARGE THE
                                                  FARE DIFFERENCE TO THE HIGHER UPGRADED FARE.
                                                  THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-
                                                  REFUNDABLE.
                                                  REROUTING PERMITTED PROVIDED ORIGIN AND
                                                  DESTINATION OF THE FARE COMPONENT REMAINS THE
                                                  SAME.
                                                  REVALIDATION REISSUE AND MCO ISSUANCE MUST BE
                                                  MADE WITHIN 24 HOURS.
                                                  AFTER CHANGE OF RESERVATION BUT NOT LATER THAN
                                                  DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
                                                  IF NOT DONE WITHIN 24 HOURS TICKET WILL ONLY BE
                                                  VALID FOR REFUND OR NOT APPICABLE AT ALL.
                                                  COMPLETELY UNUSED TICKETS CANNOT BE CHANGED INTO A
                                                  TICKET WHERE ORIGINAL ISSUING CARRIER IS NO LONGER
                                                  INCLUDED IN THE ITINERARY. TICKET IS THEN ONLY BE
                                                  VALID FOR
                                                  REFUND. PLS REFER TO REFUND SECTION IF APPLICABLE.
                                        
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS                     THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
                                           STOPOVERS.
                                        
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS                        THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
                                           - NONREF/FL/CHG RESTRICTED - AND - CHECK FARE NOTE -
                                           IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
                                        
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS                         FARE RULE
                                           CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
                                             OF THE FARE.
                                                 TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                             MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                               COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11. ID REQUIRED -
                                                  CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                         
                                           GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                           CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
                                             THE FARE.
                                                 TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                             MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                               COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                           OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  FOR INFANTS TURNING 2 YEARS ENROUTE - DUE TO
                                                  SAFETY REGULATIONS - A BOOKED SEAT WILL BE
                                                  REQUIRED FOR THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF THE
                                                  JOURNEY. WHEN A SEPARATE SEAT IS REQUIRED ON A
                                                  PORTION OF THE JOURNEY - CHILD FARE HAS TO BE
                                                  USED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
                                           OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11. ID REQUIRED -
                                                  CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
                                                 NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  UNACCOMPANIED CHILD UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL NOT
                                                  BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE. SERVICE CHARGE FOR
                                                  UNACCOMPANIED CHILD APPLIES.
                                                  FOR FURTHER INFO PLEASE CHECK GGAIRLHPT11INFO.
                                        
[...]
                                        
VOLUNTARY CHANGES                          IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
                                           BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF LX INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           CHARGE CHF 210.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
                                           SEAT AND
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON/FARE BREAKS
                                             2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             3. 4U/LH/LX/OS/SN FARES ARE USED
                                             4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
                                             PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
                                             FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
                                             5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
                                             TKT
                                             6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                             OR -
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. NO CHANGE TO FARE BREAKS
                                             2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             3. 4U/LH/LX/OS/SN/US FARES ARE USED
                                             4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
                                             PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
                                             FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
                                             5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
                                             TKT
                                             6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                           REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                           ENDORSEMENTS.
                                           OR -
                                           AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                           CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                           BY THOSE OF LX INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                           CHARGE CHF 210.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
                                           COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
                                           SEAT AND
                                             REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                             PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                             1. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
                                             2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
                                             3. 4U/LH/LX/OS/SN/US FARES ARE USED
                                             4. PUBLIC FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED FARE IS IN
                                             PUBLIC TARIFF. PRIVATE FARES ARE USED IF TICKETED
                                             FARE IS IN PRIVATE TARIFF
                                             5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
                                             TKT
                                             6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                             7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                             DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                           REFUND VIA ORIGINAL FORM OF PAYMENT
                                           ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                           ENDORSEMENTS.
                                        .
                                        
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS                          NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
                                        
NEGOTIATED FARES                           NOT APPLICABLE.
                                        
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION                 NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
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Wolke7

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Grosse Chancen auf eine neue Destination gebe ich Deiner Freundin nicht. Es sei denn, LX hat den BOS Flug ueberbucht und ist deshalb froh ueber jede Pax, die woandershin ausweicht.
Also freundlich anrufen; kalkulieren wuerde ich allerdings mit einer Zusatzbuchung BOS-NYC.
 

Mizar

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BOS-NYC bietet sich Amtrak Schnellzug an, fährt fast jede Stunde, direkt nach Manhatten (Pen Station)
Fliegen hat mir hier noch nie einen wesentlichen Zeitvorsprung gebracht.
Im Gegenteil, umsteigen in den Staaten ist durch Immigration am Port-of-entry immer ein ziemlicher Stress, wenn möglich steig immer in Europa um.