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Thema: Singapore Airlines BCN-TYO Premium Eco ~1150€, ~30000 M&M

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    Standard Singapore Airlines BCN-TYO Premium Eco ~1150€, ~30000 M&M

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    Ich bin durch Zufall auf diese Fare gestossen. Es ist zwar nur ein Premium Economy Tarif, aber immerhin Singapore Airlines und es gibt 150% Meilen bei M&M. Stopover möglich. Sicherlich nicht der schnellste Flug, um nach Tokyo zu kommen.


    https://www.google.de/flights/#searc...BCN1SQ378;sc=p
    adiru, Transworldone, chrini1 und 2 Andere sagen Danke für diesen Beitrag.

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    Bekomme das in der Matrix nicht nachgestellt - kennt jemand die Farebasis und Konditionen? Sind Stopover erlaubt?

    edit: Ok, AMEX war so nett mir ein paar Fare Infos auszuspucken:

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    TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
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    TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
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    VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 15JAN18 AND ON/ BEFORE 30NOV18.
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    CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR CANCEL. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 200.00 ----------------------------------------- AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 200.00 ----------------------------------------- THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. ------------------------------------------- IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. ------------------------------------------- CANCELLATION / REFUND FEE OF USD200. ADDITIONAL ADMIN FEE OF USD50 IF DONE THROUGH SQ TICKET OFFICE. OW FARE WILL BE CHARGED ON ANY USED SECTORS IN THE DETERMINATION OF REFUND VALUE. ------------------------------------------ IN CASES OF NO-SHOW CHARGE NO SHOW FEE OF USD200 FOR CANCEL UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. -------------------------------------------------- FOR ANY CANCELLATIONS THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING. BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE ----------------------------------------- AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE ----------------------------------------- THE NEW BASE FARE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL BASE FARE FOLLOWING ANY TICKET CHANGES. ----------------------------------------- IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON- REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. -------------------------------------------- ADDITIONAL ADMIN FEE OF USD 50.00 IF DONE THROUGH SQ TICKET OFFICE. ------------------------------------------ IN CASES OF NO-SHOW CHARGE NO SHOW FEE OF USD200 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATE UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. -------------------------------------------------- FOR ANY TICKET CHANGES THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
    Geändert von adiru (17.01.2018 um 15:04 Uhr)

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    Fare type Premium Economy
    Fare basis code
    PT1ESRG1 Maximum stay 3 MONTHS Minimum stay 3 DAYS Itinerary change Allowed
    With payment of any fare difference, subject to currency conversion and your bank's exchange rate. Cancellation / Refund Allowed
    With payment of USD200, subject to currency conversion and your bank's exchange rate. No show fee Applicable
    USD200, subject to currency conversion and your bank's exchange rate. Passengers should notify Carrier before check in closes for the no show flight, if he intends to use the subsequent flight coupon(s) / sector(s) in his ticket. Carrier can recompute fares based on actual flight sequence used and passenger must pay any fare difference. Without such prior notification, no show fee may apply and Carrier can cancel any subsequent flight coupon(s) / sector(s) in the ticket. For change to travel itinerary sequence and / or notification on no show, please contact Carrier. TRAVEL ITINERARY SEQUENCE Fares are valid only if all flight coupons / sectors in the ticket are used in sequence. If passenger only commences his journey at any stopover or agreed stopping place, Carrier can recompute fares based on actual flight sequence used and passenger must pay any fare difference. Mileage accrual Allowed
    SINGAPORE AIRLINES & SILKAIR OPERATED FLIGHTS* KrisFlyer: 110% of actual flown distance (S, T, P booking classes). Partner frequent flyer programmes: accrual levels may differ on Singapore Airlines operated flights; not applicable on SilkAir operated flights. *For ticket(s) partially paid for using KrisFlyer miles, the miles earned are proportionate to the amount paid using credit/debit card. These miles can only be credited to KrisFlyer membership accounts. FLIGHTS OPERATED BY OTHER AIRLINES KrisFlyer mileage accrual levels on flights operated by KrisFlyer partner airlines may differ. Singapore Airlines codeshare flights operated by non-KrisFlyer partner airlines are not accruable to KrisFlyer. For details, visit Other airlines partners
    Upgrade awards Allowed
    KrisFlyer Upgrade Awards on Singapore Airlines & SilkAir: Allowed*. Star Alliance Upgrade Awards on Singapore Airlines: Allowed. *Sectors on Economy Class must be booked in the Y, B or E booking classes to be eligible for upgrade award redemption. Conditions for paying with KrisFlyer miles When you pay with KrisFlyer miles, you'll only earn miles on the portion of the fare that's paid with a credit/debit card. Full fare rules and conditions, and KrisFlyer terms and conditions apply. Advance Purchase FROM/TO AREA 2 FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 15 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS. NOTE - TICKETING TIME LIMIT -TTL- APPLIES. Travel restrictions VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 15JAN 18 AND ON/ BEFORE 30NOV 18.
    Only tickets marketed by Singapore Airlines or SilkAir, and operated by one of these airlines, can be paid with KrisFlyer miles.
    Blackout dates NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED Sales restrictions TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 27DEC 17 AND ON/BEFORE 31JAN 18. FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 15 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN EUROPE/ISRAEL TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. NOTE - BSP ONLY SQ 618. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN EUROPE/ISRAEL TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. NOTE - BSP ONLY SQ 618. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN EUROPE/ISRAEL TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. NOTE - BSP ONLY SQ 618. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO SPECIFIC AGENTS. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN EUROPE/ISRAEL TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. NOTE - BSP ONLY SQ 618. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON SQ AND MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN EUROPE/ISRAEL TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING. NOTE - BSP ONLY SQ 618. Flight restrictions FOR PT1ESRG1 TYPE FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 15 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING MI FLIGHTS 1000 THROUGH 9999 QV FLIGHTS 920 THROUGH 921 QV FLIGHTS 930 THROUGH 931 QV FLIGHTS 4570 THROUGH 4571 QV FLIGHTS 4574 THROUGH 4575 VA FLIGHTS 3000 THROUGH 3999 VA FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5199 VA FLIGHTS 5400 THROUGH 5499 VA FLIGHTS 5900 THROUGH 6099 VA FLIGHTS 6500 THROUGH 6999 VA FLIGHTS 7000 THROUGH 7499 VA FLIGHTS 7990 THROUGH 7999 VA FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999 VN FLIGHTS 650 THROUGH 651 VN FLIGHTS 654 THROUGH 655 VN FLIGHTS 658 THROUGH 663 GA FLIGHTS 9000 THROUGH 9999 GA FLIGHTS 822 THROUGH 839 GA FLIGHTS 840 THROUGH 843 GA FLIGHTS 848 THROUGH 849 GA FLIGHTS 854 THROUGH 855 PG FLIGHTS 961 THROUGH 962. AND THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY VA ANY QV FLIGHT OPERATED BY QV ANY VA FLIGHT OPERATED BY VA ANY VN FLIGHT OPERATED BY VN ANY PG FLIGHT OPERATED BY PG ANY GA FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ ANY TR FLIGHT OPERATED BY TR ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY TR ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY TR SQ FLIGHTS 4281 THROUGH 4282 OPERATED BY NZ NZ FLIGHTS 281 THROUGH 282 NZ FLIGHTS 52 THROUGH 57 NZ FLIGHTS 752 THROUGH 755 NZ FLIGHTS 40 THROUGH 41 NZ FLIGHTS 312 THROUGH 313 NZ FLIGHTS 782 THROUGH 783 NZ FLIGHTS 791 THROUGH 792 NZ FLIGHTS 175 THROUGH 176 NZ FLIGHTS 775 THROUGH 776 NZ FLIGHT 842 NZ FLIGHTS 845 THROUGH 846 NZ FLIGHTS 849 THROUGH 850 NZ FLIGHTS 852 THROUGH 853 NZ FLIGHT 855 NZ FLIGHTS 836 THROUGH 837 NZ FLIGHTS 671 THROUGH 679 NZ FLIGHTS 401 THROUGH 499 NZ FLIGHTS 619 THROUGH 649 NZ FLIGHTS 500 THROUGH 569 NZ FLIGHTS 331 THROUGH 379 NZ FLIGHTS 2000 THROUGH 2999 NZ FLIGHTS 5000 THROUGH 5999 NZ FLIGHTS 8000 THROUGH 8999. Seasonality NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED Stopover FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 15 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT IN AREA 3. NOTE - AS PER ROUTING Ticket endorsement FOR PT1ESRG1 TYPE FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 15 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - NON ENDORSABLE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX. Fees FOR PT1ESRG1 TYPE FARES CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR CANCEL. NOTE - BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 200.00 AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - USD 200.00 THE ABOVE CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT. IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. CANCELLATION / REFUND FEE OF USD200. ADDITIONAL ADMIN FEE OF USD50 IF DONE THROUGH SQ TICKET OFFICE. OW FARE WILL BE CHARGED ON ANY USED SECTORS IN THE DETERMINATION OF REFUND VALUE. IN CASES OF NO-SHOW CHARGE NO SHOW FEE OF USD200 FOR CANCEL UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. FOR ANY CANCELLATIONS THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. CHANGES ANY TIME CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - BEFORE FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE AFTER FIRST FLIGHT DEPARTURE - NO CHARGE THE NEW BASE FARE MUST BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL BASE FARE FOLLOWING ANY TICKET CHANGES. IN CASE OF TICKET UPGRADE THE ORIGINAL NON- REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE. ADDITIONAL ADMIN FEE OF USD 50.00 IF DONE THROUGH SQ TICKET OFFICE. IN CASES OF NO-SHOW CHARGE NO SHOW FEE OF USD200 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATE UNLESS PROOF OF CANCELLATION FOR THE RESERVATIONS ON AFFECTED TICKET BEFORE SCHEDULED FLIGHT DEPARTURE TIME IS PROVIDED. FOR ANY TICKET CHANGES THE STRICTER FARE CONDITIONS WILL APPLY TO THE ENTIRE JOURNEY. Additional conditions FOR FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 15 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED FOR ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT WITH A DIFFERENTIAL. NOTE - FOR KRISFLYER MEMBERS - 110 PERCENTAGE OF ACTUAL DISTANCE FLOWN ON SQ/MI FLIGHTS FOR PREMIUM ECONOMY CLASS. 10 PERCENTAGE OF ACTUAL DISTANCE FLOWN ON SQ/MI FLIGHTS FOR ECONOMY CLASS
    NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED



    Geht auch ab ARN über DME sowie ab MXP. Ist aber jeweils teurer und bringt weniger Meilen.

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    nach SYD, MEL etc.. übrigens mit 1380 EUR auch nicht schlecht bei bis zu ca. 34000 M&M Meilen.
    skywest sagt Danke für diesen Beitrag.

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    Zitat Zitat von adiru Beitrag anzeigen
    nach SYD, MEL etc.. übrigens mit 1380 EUR auch nicht schlecht bei bis zu ca. 34000 M&M Meilen.
    sen für 3,6 k €
    skywest sagt Danke für diesen Beitrag.

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    Ist das als Schnäppchen gedacht oder als Mileage run?

    Ich fliege um Ostern herum (sakura) direkt DUS-NRT (ANA) KIX-FRA (LH) für 1262 Euro in PE, beide Flüge in den Osterferien....
    Ganz regulär (im November) auf LH.com gebucht, fare ELRNJDE bzw. NLRNJDE. Kein Positionierungsflug nötig, kein Umsteigen in sonstwo. Wenn man nicht gerade in BCN wohnt ist das auch nicht teurer.....Klar, gibt weniger Meilen (100% und weniger Strecke), aber ist es das wert?
    Im Sommerflugplan gehts sogar noch billiger (nicht mehr Ostern natürlich...), z.B. Mai 15.-24. für ~ 1143 Euro.... Fare ist
    ENCPJEU1 bzw. NNCPJEU1. Müsste sich eigentlich auch mit etwas anderen routen realisieren lassen. Interessanterweise gibts bei den fares aber keine 25% Rabatt für Kinder bis 11 mehr, das war bei E/NLRNJDE noch anders....
    Geändert von Xray (22.01.2018 um 00:38 Uhr)
    skywest sagt Danke für diesen Beitrag.

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    Ist ein relativ normaler Tarif (nicht unbedingt ein Schnäppchen).
    Möglicher Stopover in SIN und/oder (vor allem) die Meilen machen ihn ziemlich attraktiv.

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    Zitat Zitat von hiob Beitrag anzeigen
    Ist ein relativ normaler Tarif (nicht unbedingt ein Schnäppchen).
    Möglicher Stopover in SIN und/oder (vor allem) die Meilen machen ihn ziemlich attraktiv.
    Der Preis für SQ P-Eco kein Schnäppchen?

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    Zitat Zitat von slowflyer Beitrag anzeigen
    Der Preis für SQ P-Eco kein Schnäppchen?
    Gegenfrage (ernsthaft), ist die SQ P-Eco so viel besser als z.B. ANA, dass sich massive Umwege lohnen?

    Klar, Stopover in SIN. Wer das braucht, ist damit gut aufgehoben. Ich für meinen Teil, wenn ich nach Japan will, will ich idR nicht nach SIN, aber wie gesagt, das mag im Einzelfall anders sein.
    Dass man mit einem Trip fast den FTL hat, lasse ich aber gelten. Wäre mir persönlich aber keine ~24h vs. 11,5 h wert.....

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    Zitat Zitat von Xray Beitrag anzeigen
    Gegenfrage (ernsthaft), ist die SQ P-Eco so viel besser als z.B. ANA, dass sich massive Umwege lohnen?

    Klar, Stopover in SIN. Wer das braucht, ist damit gut aufgehoben. Ich für meinen Teil, wenn ich nach Japan will, will ich idR nicht nach SIN, aber wie gesagt, das mag im Einzelfall anders sein.
    Dass man mit einem Trip fast den FTL hat, lasse ich aber gelten. Wäre mir persönlich aber keine ~24h vs. 11,5 h wert.....
    Nein, das macht nur zum Sammeln der Statusmeilen Sinn und dafür ist der Preis günstig und insbesondere für SIA, ab DE dürfte dafür deutlich mehr bezahlen für P-Eco mit SQ.
    skywest sagt Danke für diesen Beitrag.

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