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2010-03-13 AC0585 EWR YYC 0745 1026 Adam Smith C-FHON?

2010-03-11
AC254 YVR-YEG
ATD: 22:47
Takeoff: 23:04
ATA: 01:09 (+1)
Tail Number: C-FHON E190 0 33000 11/03/2010 23:05:12

Only E190 departure from YVR at around 23:00 (0 33000 usually means it's ascending)

2010-03-12
AC233 YEG-YVR
ATD: 06:15
DG: 54
ATA: 07:11

Nearly two hours of ground time at YVR is consistent with gate changes, etc. for morning flights. I observed this with C-FZUB as AC201/AC142 when verifying your AC224.

AC206 YVR-YYC
STD: 09:00
ATA: 11:28

AC584 YYC-EWR
ATD: 12:29
ATA: 19:21

2010-03-13
AC585 EWR-YYC
STD: 07:45
ATA: 10:26


AC211 YYC-YVR
ATD: 11:11
ATA: 11:34
Tail Number: C-FHON   E190 0097 Air Canada \nAC0211  (YYC-YVR) 1107 20100313

For me, this is the routing that makes the best sense using flights that listed an E190 as their equipment. I'll still need your approval for this unless I exhaust all known possibilities.

This one feels tenuous. The combination of AC206 to AC584 on the 12th doesn’t inspire much confidence. The 45 minute turn going from domestic to transborder is very tight. YYC had switch gates back then but they weren’t necessarily quick to switch, depending on where you were parked and how the terminal was configured at the moment.

Looking at other E90 arrivals scheduled in to YYC around that time, AC585 from EWR was scheduled to arrive at 11:08, which would have been a more plausible inbound. AC113 from YOW, scheduled in at 10:30, also feels possible. Plenty of time to be towed or wait for a switch gate to be reconfigured.

I was surprised that the plane would have sat overnight at EWR, but it did look like everything else AC at EWR around that time was either an E75 (YYZ) or a 319 (YVR), so AC584 on the 12th probably is the inbound if we can figure that out.

There was also another early morning E90 departure from YEG on the 12th, AC114 to YYZ, that could have been C-FHON. And there are a number of ways it could have gotten from there to YYC to operate that 211 on the 13th.

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2009-12-08 AC0145 YYZ YYC 2030 2251 Adam Smith C-GARJ?

2009-12-08
AC128 YYC-YYZ
ATD: 13:27
ATA: 19:13
Tail Number: C-GARJ (A319 AC) 0053 20091209 AC0128 (YYC-YYZ) [Cambridge-2, Ontario, Canada]

AC145 YYZ-YYC
STD: 20:30
ATA: 22:51

2009-12-09

AC546 YYC-LAS
ATD: 08:40
ATA: 10:30

AC545 LAS-YVR
ATD: 11:14
ATA: 14:01
Tail Number: C-GARJ (A319 AC) 2111 20091209 AC0545 (LAS-YVR) [somewhere]

AC145 was listed as an A319 that day, and when you try to trace the A319 movements (flights that were listed as an A319, not necessarily those that were operated by an A319 that day) you get that. The closest and most viable A319 arrival at YYZ was AC128, and tracing back its movements on the 9th will lead you back to YYC which perfectly aligns with AC145's time.

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found 2009-12-08 AC0145 YYZ YYC 2030 2251 Adam Smith C-GARJ #8328

I’d agree that AC545 LAS-YVR definitely had to be operated by the aircraft that came in as AC546 from YYC. There was a YYZ-LAS that was scheduled to arrive only a few minutes after that might, in theory, have been able to do the LAS-YVR, but it was delayed and arrived far too late, so that’s clean.

I’m not too hung up on the fact I had originally posted this as an A321. I suspect that came from the booking confirmation. This would have been a trip booked fairly close in, but still, reasonable chance that it could have changed. FlightStats and FlightAware do both show it as having been an A319.

The only other way for C-GARJ to have gotten to YYC in time would have been to operate AC141 later the evening of the 8th. FlightStats shows that as having been an E90, and if that’s correct, it would give us a definitive answer. But we know the types listed there aren’t always correct… So, any intel on that flight that would help us make this 100%? (I think it’s 95% now, don’t get me wrong, just curious whether we can make it definitive).

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2008-11-21 AC0118 YYC YOW 1155 1749 Adam Smith C-FGMF?

2008-11-20
AC266 YWG-YYZ
STD: 13:05
ATA: 16:27
Tail Number: C-FGMF (E190 AC) 2204 20081120 AC0266 (YWG-YYZ) [Toronto, Canada]

AC614 YYZ-YHZ
ATD: 17:03
DG: 140
ATA: 20:01

2008-11-21
AC661 YHZ-YUL
STD: 06:05
ATA: 07:09

AC165 YUL-YYC
STD: 08:55
ATA: 11:27

AC118 YYC-YOW
STD: 11:55
DG: B22
ATA: 17:53


AC118 YOW-YHZ
ATD: 18:45
DG: 27
ATA: 21:16

2008-11-22
AC607 YHZ-YYZ
ATD: 14:05 (severely delayed from 07:45)
DG: 23
ATA: 15:48
Tail Number: C-FGMF (E190 AC) 2116 20081122 AC0607 (YHZ-YYZ) [Toronto, Canada]

I think there’s too much distance between these data points. This might be correct, but I suspect that AC614 on the 20th went to YUL as AC671 at 20:55. It could still have operated the AC165 either way, but unless we have departure/arrival gates, I don’t think we really know with any certainty.

The AC118 that arrived at YHZ as the continuation of my flight would have sat around overnight, but so would several other E90s, so I don’t think there’s any way to tie that AC607 the next day to the previous evening’s AC118.

I suspect I could come up with quite a few different paths for an E90 to take that would tie the AC266 on the 20th to the AC607 on the 22nd that wouldn’t involve the AC118 I’m looking for.

Can these be finally removed from the list? I think I already solved them months ago, so I don't know why they're still here. 😅

found 2016-07-09 AC7763 YQM YHZ 1305 1350 Adam Smith C-GORI #8367
found 2018-05-28 AC7760 YHZ YQM 1405 1447 Adam Smith C-GLXV #8367
found 2018-05-28 AC7763 YQM YHZ 1515 1549 Adam Smith C-GLXV #8367
found 2018-05-29 AC7782 YQX YYT 0520 0612 Adam Smith C-FPUB #8367

Are some of these the ones that conflicted with what I had already found, and my friend’s photos? I thought I had addressed all of those ones that were proposed while I wasn’t on this site for a few months, but it’s possible I missed looking at some, or did look at them but forgot to reply.
 

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Hi @zeus1309, do you have these in your database? I can't seem to find the tail numbers on both ACARS and DFLD.

2010-09-07 FB0437 SOF FRA 1600 1730 B463 fakepcy
2011-08-21 FB0438 FRA SOF 1830 2200 B463 fakepcy

Runway, times, and gate data needed:
2010-08-15 FB0438 FRA SOF 1830 2150 LZ-HVB
2011-09-09 FB0437 SOF FRA 1600 1730 LZ-FBB

Thank you in advance!
 
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