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[fakepcy]

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@Adam Smith

2005-08-14 AC0137 YYZ YVR 1800 1957 Adam Smith C-GHKW?

Both June and October timetables say this flight was operated by an A333, so I tried eliminating each and every one of them:

C-GFAF
2005-08-14 AC857 LHR-YYZ 11:05-14:00
20050814;1210;9978;C-GFAF;AC0857;A330 ACA EGLL-CYYZ;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-14 AC862 YYZ-LHR 19:15-07:30 (+1)
20050815;0118;10001;C-GFAF;AC0862;A330-343 X AC YYZ-LHR;Saint-Georges

C-GFAH
2005-08-14 AC849 LHR-YYZ 15:15-18:10
20050814;1417;9978;C-GFAH;AC0849;A330 ACA EGLL-CYYZ;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-14 AC858 YYZ-LHR 22:15-10:30 (+1)
20050815;0417;10001;C-GFAH;AC0858;A330-343 X AC YYZ-LHR;Saint-Georges

C-GFAJ
2005-08-14 AC855 LHR-YVR 14:25-16:10
20050814;1316;9978;C-GFAJ;AC0855;A330 ACA EGLL-CYVR;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-14 AC854 YVR-LHR 17:40-11:25 (+1)
20050815;1024;10008;C-GFAJ;AC0854;A330 ACA CYVR-EGLL;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]

C-GFUR
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-14 AC870 YUL-CDG 19:45-08:30 (+1)
20050815;0133;10001;C-GFUR;AC0870;A330-343 X AC YUL-CDG;Saint-Georges

C-GHKR
2005-08-14 AC873 FRA-YYZ 10:50-13:30
20050814;1115;9978;C-GHKR;AC0873;A330 ACA EDDF-CYYZ;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-14 AC872 YYZ-FRA 17:15-07:00 (+1)
C-GHKR PSDQ 330 ACA ACA0872 LBP, Toronto, Canada Frankfurt, Germany 15/08/2005 04:36

C-GHKW
2005-08-14 AC871 CDG-YUL 10:30-12:10
20050814;1014;9978;C-GHKW;AC0871;A330 ACA LFPG-CYUL;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-15 AC870 YUL-CDG 19:45-08:35 (+1)
C-GHKW PSHK 330 ACA ACA0870 Montreal Mirabel Int Charles De Gaulle 16/08/2005 06:24

C-GHKX
2005-08-14 AC845 FRA-YYC 14:20-16:05
20050814;1521;9977;C-GHKX;AC0845;A330-343 X ACA FRA-YYC;Copenhagen
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-14 AC844 YYC-FRA 17:55-11:20 (+1)
20050815;1031;10005;C-GHKX;AC0844;A330-343 X ACA YYC-FRA;Copenhagen

C-GHLM
2005-08-14 AC850 YYC-LHR 19:40-11:35 (+1)
20050815;1027;10008;C-GHLM;AC0850;A330 ACA CYYC-EGLL;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57
2005-08-15 AC851 LHR-YYC 13:15-15:25
20050815;1219;10008;C-GHLM;AC0851;A330 ACA EGLL-CYYC;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]


For C-GHKW, if we insert other A333 flights before and after AC137:

2005-08-14 AC871 CDG-YUL 10:30-12:10
20050814;1014;9978;C-GHKW;AC0871;A330 ACA LFPG-CYUL;Walton on Thames [5 miles from EGLL]
2005-08-14 AC417 YUL-YYZ 16:00-17:15
2005-08-14 AC137 YYZ-YVR 18:00-19:57 A333
2005-08-15 AC142 YVR-YYZ 08:20-15:44
2005-08-15 AC420 YYZ-YUL 17:00-18:10
2005-08-15 AC870 YUL-CDG 19:45-08:35 (+1)
C-GHKW PSHK 330 ACA ACA0870 Montreal Mirabel Int Charles De Gaulle 16/08/2005 06:24

But since their A333s also fly B763 routes and vice versa, we'll never be sure if AC137 that day was operated by an A333. Only @Adam Smith can confirm.

 

[fakepcy]

@zeus1309 any solutions for these?

2001-02-11 LH---- DRS FRA fakepcy
2001-02-11 LH---- FRA LAX fakepcy
2001-02-11 UA---- LAX AKL fakepcy
2001-03-08 UA---- AKL LAX fakepcy
2001-03-09 LH---- LAX FRA fakepcy
2001-03-10 LH---- FRA DRS fakepcy

Thank you in advance.

 

[zeus1309]

@zeus1309 any solutions for these?

2001-02-11 LH---- DRS FRA fakepcy
2001-02-11 LH---- FRA LAX fakepcy
2001-02-11 UA---- LAX AKL fakepcy
2001-03-08 UA---- AKL LAX fakepcy
2001-03-09 LH---- LAX FRA fakepcy
2001-03-10 LH---- FRA DRS fakepcy

Thank you in advance.

sure

2001-02-11 LH---- DRS FRA fakepcy

Date	Flight	Route	STD (UTC)	STA (UTC)	Registration	Type
11.02.2001	LH 17	DRS - FRA	11.02.2001 05:20	11.02.2001 06:30	DAIPP	320
11.02.2001	LH 47	DRS - FRA	11.02.2001 09:50	11.02.2001 11:00	DAILM	319
11.02.2001	LH 71	DRS - FRA	11.02.2001 13:25	11.02.2001 14:35	DAIPK	320
11.02.2001	LH 105	DRS - FRA	11.02.2001 17:05	11.02.2001 18:15	DABJD	735
11.02.2001	LH 205	DRS - FRA	11.02.2001 18:55	11.02.2001 20:05	DAILM	319

2001-02-11 LH---- FRA LAX fakepcy

Date	Flight	Route	STD (UTC)	STA (UTC)	Registration	Type
11.02.2001	LH 456	FRA - LAX	11.02.2001 09:15	11.02.2001 20:55	DABTE	744
11.02.2001	LH 452	FRA - LAX	11.02.2001 16:10	12.02.2001 04:25	DAIGT	343

2001-03-09 LH---- LAX FRA fakepcy

Date	Flight	Route	STD (UTC)	STA (UTC)	Registration	Type
09.03.2001	LH 453	LAX - FRA	09.03.2001 06:30	09.03.2001 17:40	DAIGU	343
09.03.2001	LH 457	LAX - FRA	09.03.2001 23:20	10.03.2001 09:55	DABVU	744

2001-03-10 LH---- FRA DRS fakepcy

Date	Flight	Route	STD (UTC)	STA (UTC)	Registration	Type
10.03.2001	LH 4812	FRA - DRS	10.03.2001 00:45	10.03.2001 01:45	DAIQT	320
10.03.2001	LH 154	FRA - DRS	10.03.2001 08:15	10.03.2001 09:15	DABEF	733
10.03.2001	LH 22	FRA - DRS	10.03.2001 11:45	10.03.2001 12:45	DAILD	319
10.03.2001	LH 236	FRA - DRS	10.03.2001 15:30	10.03.2001 16:30	DABJI	735
10.03.2001	LH 24	FRA - DRS	10.03.2001 16:35	10.03.2001 17:35	DABIH	735
10.03.2001	LH 26	FRA - DRS	10.03.2001 20:30	10.03.2001 21:30	DAIQR	320

nothing for
2001-02-11 UA---- LAX AKL fakepcy
2001-03-08 UA---- AKL LAX fakepcy

 

[fakepcy]

@SaschaX99 any info on this?

2004-08-26 U2---- CDG VCE B733 fakepcy

It says it was an evening flight, most likely departing between 18:30-19:00.

 

[SaschaX99]

@SaschaX99 any info on this?

2004-08-26 U2---- CDG VCE B733 fakepcy

It says it was an evening flight, most likely departing between 18:30-19:00.

Is the requester sure about routing and/or airline. Have no timetable but according to Easyjet Webpage there was no flight Paris-VCE

 

[ChronicTraveller]

@ChronicTraveller I just realized you meant N717UW, not N717US.

2004-10-09 US0373 CLT SJO 1025 1230 ChronicTraveller N720US?

2004-10-07 US596 SJU-PHL 08:30-12:26 N720US
?
2004-10-09 US373 CLT-SJO 10:25-12:30
2004-10-09 US452 SJO-CLT
2004-10-09 US452 CLT-MHT 20:10-22:18 N720US

Unfortunately, they stopped making timetables in the early 2000s, so I have no idea about the international flights' schedules. What do you think about N720US?

Oops, yes, N717UW. I found a USAir timetable that was effective July, 2004 and I don't think that was possible to use the inbound flight for the outbound flight to CLT. Per the timetable:

Inbound to SJO:
Flight Dep Arr
PHL-SJO 1497 07:50 10:45
CLT-SJO 373 10:25 12:30

Outbound from SJO:
SJO-CLT 452 12:05 18:11
SJO-PHL 2467 13:50 20:49

I also have a Star Alliance Timetable effective 1 November, 2004. The material difference is the change off of summer time at the end of October for the US:

Inbound to SJO:
Flight Dep Arr
PHL-SJO 1497 07:50 11:47
CLT-SJO 373 10:25 13:29

Outbound from SJO:
SJO-CLT 452 13:15 18:14
SJO-PHL 2467 14:50 20:36

From both of these, inbound CLT #373 would not arrive in time to be the return flight #452 to CLT. Thus I think the routing has to be CLT-SJO-PHL on 9 October.

 

[fakepcy]

Is the requester sure about routing and/or airline. Have no timetable but according to Easyjet Webpage there was no flight Paris-VCE

I don't think they're sure, but they said it was a 737 classic from the photos. Maybe ORY-VCE or CDG-VCE but on Air France since they also had 737 classics?

 

[fakepcy]

Oops, yes, N717UW. I found a USAir timetable that was effective July, 2004 and I don't think that was possible to use the inbound flight for the outbound flight to CLT. Per the timetable:

Inbound to SJO:
Flight Dep Arr
PHL-SJO 1497 07:50 10:45
CLT-SJO 373 10:25 12:30

Outbound from SJO:
SJO-CLT 452 12:05 18:11
SJO-PHL 2467 13:50 20:49

I also have a Star Alliance Timetable effective 1 November, 2004. The material difference is the change off of summer time at the end of October for the US:

Inbound to SJO:
Flight Dep Arr
PHL-SJO 1497 07:50 11:47
CLT-SJO 373 10:25 13:29

Outbound from SJO:
SJO-CLT 452 13:15 18:14
SJO-PHL 2467 14:50 20:36

From both of these, inbound CLT #373 would not arrive in time to be the return flight #452 to CLT. Thus I think the routing has to be CLT-SJO-PHL on 9 October.

Oh, I finally get your point and now I'm also leaning toward N717UW

2004-10-09 US748 STL-CLT 06:30-09:14 N717UW
2004-10-09 US373 CLT-SJO 10:25-12:30
2004-10-09 US2467 SJO-PHL 13:50-20:49
2004-10-10 US51 PHL-DEN 08:05-10:21 N717UW

The good thing about planes returning to a different US airport from an international flight is that it makes it easier to narrow down the tail numbers because that can be the only way for it to end up at a certain airport, unless it was a repositioning flight which I doubt. It reminds me of solving NW's BOS-AMS-DTW on their DC-10, since AMS was their only DC-10 flight from BOS in the 90s. If this is US' only international flight from CLT that returns to PHL during that gap, then I guess this should be marked as solved.

 

[ChronicTraveller]

@ChronicTraveller

2003-02-06 AC0129 YUL YVR 1830 2105 ChronicTraveller C-GITU?

No YVR ACARS on February 6, but I noticed a trend with planes operating AC129—they usually fly AC150 YVR-YUL or AC166 YVR-YOW the next morning.

C-GITU A319-211 1602 451 EJ-HS [D-AMTA] Operating as AC0150 First Contacted at 09:51, on 07/02/2003 no recorded AC166 that day

Examples:
C-GIUF A321-112 1638 455 ES-HM [D-AMTD] Operating as AC0129 First Contacted at 20:19, on 02/02/2003
C-GIUF A321-112 1638 455 ES-HM [D-AMTD] Operating as AC0166 First Contacted at 10:04, on 03/02/2003



Should this be marked as found?

@fakepcy I like your logic here. Originally I was looking over this, as my notes from the time show a 321 and not a 319. However I look and ACARS actually is mis-identifying the plane given the reg. C-GITU is a 321-200, NOT a 319-211. Based on that I would agree we can mark as found. I suppose there is a small potential it could be C-GJVX, another 321 that was spotted on the morning of 7 February going YVR-LAX (AC0760) at 09:00. However, there doesn't seem to be the same historical connection with AC0129, so I'd say your finding of C-GITU is good.

Thank you for this one! Another one off my list.

 

[ChronicTraveller]

Oh, I finally get your point and now I'm also leaning toward N717UW

2004-10-09 US748 STL-CLT 06:30-09:14 N717UW
2004-10-09 US373 CLT-SJO 10:25-12:30
2004-10-09 US2467 SJO-PHL 13:50-20:49
2004-10-10 US51 PHL-DEN 08:05-10:21 N717UW

The good thing about planes returning to a different US airport from an international flight is that it makes it easier to narrow down the tail numbers because that can be the only way for it to end up at a certain airport, unless it was a repositioning flight which I doubt. It reminds me of solving NW's BOS-AMS-DTW on their DC-10, since AMS was their only DC-10 flight from BOS in the 90s. If this is US' only international flight from CLT that returns to PHL during that gap, then I guess this should be marked as solved.

@fakepcy Unfortunately it is not the only flight I find on BTS that is into CLT and out of PHL during that time frame! That is why it is not a 100% certainty. There are 3 I have found: N713UW, N717UW, and N108UW. These match 3 routes on the day that go out of CLT and return to PHL: CLT-SJO-PHL, CLT-SKB-PHL, and CLT-AUA-PHL. All leave CLT around the same time, and all arrive PHL around the same time so that doesn't help much. CLT-AUA-PHL shows as a A320 on BTS, which matches N108UW. But between the other 2 planes, both A319, it is a bit of a guess unless you can find some gate info. I lean towards N717UW because it arrives about 15 minutes earlier than N713UW, and the SJO flight departs 20 minutes earlier than the SKB flight. That keeps the layover times pretty consistent. But based on arrival times, it really could be either plane and it would still make the connection.

 

[fakepcy]

@fakepcy Unfortunately it is not the only flight I find on BTS that is into CLT and out of PHL during that time frame! That is why it is not a 100% certainty. There are 3 I have found: N713UW, N717UW, and N108UW. These match 3 routes on the day that go out of CLT and return to PHL: CLT-SJO-PHL, CLT-SKB-PHL, and CLT-AUA-PHL. All leave CLT around the same time, and all arrive PHL around the same time so that doesn't help much. CLT-AUA-PHL shows as a A320 on BTS, which matches N108UW. But between the other 2 planes, both A319, it is a bit of a guess unless you can find some gate info. I lean towards N717UW because it arrives about 15 minutes earlier than N713UW, and the SJO flight departs 20 minutes earlier than the SKB flight. That keeps the layover times pretty consistent. But based on arrival times, it really could be either plane and it would still make the connection.

N108UW	US1495	04-10-09 10:52	A320-214	US Airways
N108UW	US1496	04-10-09 18:45	A320-214	US Airways

N713UW

US1498

04-10-09 18:44

A319-112

US Airways

 

[fakepcy]

@fakepcy I like your logic here. Originally I was looking over this, as my notes from the time show a 321 and not a 319. However I look and ACARS actually is mis-identifying the plane given the reg. C-GITU is a 321-200, NOT a 319-211. Based on that I would agree we can mark as found. I suppose there is a small potential it could be C-GJVX, another 321 that was spotted on the morning of 7 February going YVR-LAX (AC0760) at 09:00. However, there doesn't seem to be the same historical connection with AC0129, so I'd say your finding of C-GITU is good.

Thank you for this one! Another one off my list.

found 2003-02-06 AC0129 YUL YVR 1830 2105 ChronicTraveller C-GITU #9537

It checks out because AC129 was listed as an A321 according to their (September) 2003 timetable.

 

[fakepcy]

Is the requester sure about routing and/or airline. Have no timetable but according to Easyjet Webpage there was no flight Paris-VCE

They're sure about CDG-VCE but not about the airline. Their watch indicated 19:30 when they took pics of the flight. Here's my proposed solution:

2004-08-26 AF2226 CDG VCE 1810 1955 F-GPMF?

Schedule taken from KLM August 2004 timetable. The flight wasn't properly recorded on OTT logs:

AF0226 F-GRXH CDG-TAS Dedicate A319LR on medium-long haul flights
AF222M F-GPMF
AF226T F-GUGF AF2268 CDG-MAN
AF226U F-GUGF AF2269 MAN-CDG

A FlightMemory entry in 2006 says AF222 was CDG-VIE, but AF's CDG-VIE flights only had AF1138, AF1438, AF1738, and AF2038. I'm guessing it was probably an AF222X flight number, but only AF2226 CDG-VCE and AF2227 VCE-CDG exist, and those flights were operated by an A319, so...

 

[fakepcy]

2005-05-12 AF1238 CDG VIE fakepcy (typo? AF1738? If 1738 F-GJNE, see #9063, #9090)
2005-05-16 AF1139 VIE CDG fakepcy
2005-07-25 AF1138 CDG VIE fakepcy
2005-08-07 AF1139 VIE CDG fakepcy

Adding more detail to make this possibly easier to solve/confirm:

2005-05-12 AF CDG-VIE
AF1138 07:15-09:15 A320 F-GKXI? (AF138B/AF139U)
AF1438 09:40-11:40
AF1738 12:40-14:40 B735 F-GJNE
AF2038 16:15-18:15 A320 F-GKXU

found 2005-05-12 AF1738 CDG VIE 1240 1440 fakepcy F-GJNE #9538
2005-05-16 AF1139 VIE CDG 1010 1215 fakepcy
2005-07-25 AF1138 CDG VIE 0715 0915 fakepcy
2005-08-07 AF1139 VIE CDG 1010 1215 fakepcy

Requester previously mentioned that he took a 737 flight on May 12. AF1438 was operated by an A320, according to FlightMemory entries.

@zeus1309 any new findings from your VIE database?

 

[fakepcy]

They're sure about CDG-VCE but not about the airline. Their watch indicated 19:30 when they took pics of the flight. Here's my proposed solution:

2004-08-26 AF2226 CDG VCE 1810 1955 F-GPMF?

Schedule taken from KLM August 2004 timetable. The flight wasn't properly recorded on OTT logs:

AF0226 F-GRXH CDG-TAS Dedicate A319LR on medium-long haul flights
AF222M F-GPMF
AF226T F-GUGF AF2268 CDG-MAN
AF226U F-GUGF AF2269 MAN-CDG

A FlightMemory entry in 2006 says AF222 was CDG-VIE, but AF's CDG-VIE flights only had AF1138, AF1438, AF1738, and AF2038. I'm guessing it was probably an AF222X flight number, but only AF2226 CDG-VCE and AF2227 VCE-CDG exist, and those flights were operated by an A319, so...

AF222M is most likely AF6222 ORY-NCE 17:00-18:25...