20.07.11: Swiss-Jumbolino in heikler Lage

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Peter

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Ich bin zu müde & zu faul zum selber schreiben, aber ich habe auch die FI gelesen.
Deswegen poste ich hier einfach mal einen Post aus einem anderen Forum, der mir in der Sache aus dem Herzen spricht:

Verfasser sheppey, aus pprune.org, 18DEC 08:35h.

"Flight International 11-17 December has published its correspondent's story on the Swiss investigation of the near loss of control by the captain and first officer of their Avro RJ100 after take off.

Extract: "Given the copilot's mistrust of the attitude indicators after a failure of a single reference system, the captain took over using the standby ADI but had problems flying on the standby ADI due to parallax error. The aircraft underwent a series of "changeable and unstable" attitudes oscillating with rates of climb and descent of about 1500 fpm which then increased to some 2500 fpm. Safe control of the RJ100 was at times no longer guaranteed, says the BFU. The report said the changes in attitude shows the captain was temporarily "overburdened"

The report goes on to say "with the assistance of ATC and eventual re-engagement of the autothrottle and flight director the pilots guided the aircraft to a safe landing."

The report said the aircraft sustained a brief instrument failure shortly after take off but the pilots incorrectly suspected a fault in the flight guidance computer.

So there we are. Flight director and automatic throttle saved the day. Thank God for the miracles of automation. Forget the need for pilots to fly using basic instrument flying skills when one ADI goes out, as long as the flight director tells the pilot how to recover from unusual attitudes. And of course full marks go to the autothrottles to unburden the captain.

I would have thought the last thing the captain needed was a flight director and autothrottles to save the day. This is yet another instance of poor instrument flying ability coupled with automation dependency causing a near loss of control. Parallax error is no big deal. Live with it.

"Safe control of the RJ100 was no longer guaranteed" said the investigators. What an indictment of the company training system that would allow the captain and copilot to get into such a mess. I guess the passengers wouldn't be too impressed, either"
 

Triple3

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I would have thought the last thing the captain needed was a flight director and autothrottles to save the day. This is yet another instance of poor instrument flying ability coupled with automation dependency causing a near loss of control.

:rolleyes:

Sagt jemand, der sicher auch ESP im Auto hat. :doh: Sollte man ihm mal abschalten und wenn sein Kind oder seine Frau dann aus der Kurve fliegt nur sagen "Tja, selbst schuld, wenn man so dumm ist. Ein echter Autofahrer hätte das Übersteuern ja abgefangen."

Auch wenn man mich dann wohl ebenfalls in die Kategorie "automation dependent" einstuft: Ich sehe nichts aber auch gar nichts Verwerfliches daran, die mir zur Verfügung gestellte Technologie auch auszunutzen. Man gewinnt keinen Blumentopf, wenn man die Kiste schreddert aber auf dem Grabstein steht "Heldenhaft hat er die Rettung versucht ohne zu Hilfenahme von diesen sch:censored: Computern."