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Hallo zusammen,

ich hatte vor ein paar Wochen u.a. den Flughafen Denpasar kontaktiert und habe gestern eine Antwort bekommen.

Found 2008-09-11 CX0785 HKG DPS 1005 1450 A343 docceejay B-HFX
Found 2008-09-24 SQ0941 DPS SIN 0915 1145 772 docceejay 9V-SRP
Found 2011-09-25 CI0771 TPE DPS 0915 1420 A333 docceejay (vsstl nur B-18391 o. B-18392 in Frage, #2680) B-18307
Found 2011-10-07 CI0772 DPS TPE 1530 2040 A333 docceejay (vsstl nur B-18391 o. B-18392 in Frage, #2680) B-18301

Dabei irritiert mich nun das Ergebnis für den CX-Flug ein wenig. Flightstats gibt für den Flug eine 773 an. Hat jemand eine Ahnung, wie valide die Daten von Flightstats aus dieser Zeit sind? Auf Flugstatistik findet man um den gesuchten Zeitraum herum eigentlich nur 773 oder 744, alledings keine 343.
Ist die Reg korrekt oder Typo mit B-HXF?

Da die Genauigkeit der Aircrafts bei Flightstats zufällig ein paar Seiten vorher ein Thema für Flüge 2009 und früher:

Re the 319 vs 320 issue, my confidence in the type is always somewhat limited with AC. FlightAware and FlightStats are not always correct for that, so if I pulled 320 as the type, it’s quite possible it’s a 319, or vice versa. It’s probably correct over 80% of the time, maybe even over 90% of the time, but sometimes even when it has the exact registration, it still stores the type incorrectly. Something which continues to this day, by the way.

This certainly feels plausible, although there are some other arrivals that could make sense as the inbound, I’m not sure this is certain. Rotations weren’t necessarily consistent things like YYZ-YYC-YVR. It could have been YUL-YYC-YVR or YOW-YYC-YVR. FlightStats might say those were operated by E90 or 320, but that’s just not super reliable. Especially the older flights.
 
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Found 2014-02-15 AC0405 YUL YYZ 0859 1013 320 Adam Smith C-FTJP (likely correct)
Found 2014-02-17 AC0408 YYZ YUL 1059 1217 320 Adam Smith C-FTJP (likely correct)

Even when inputting again the regs of all AC A319s that were active on 2014-02-17 gave no "Unknown Owner" message even for one reg. We've already seen how FlightAware doesn't always get the equipment right as it listed some A320-operated flights as A319 and vice-versa. My previous posts say it all, since it would be too redundant if I'll reiterate them one by one here.

UPDATE: changed to likely correct

Also an update on:

2014-02-15 AC0405 YUL YYZ 0859 1013 320 Adam Smith
2014-02-17 AC0408 YYZ YUL 1059 1217 319 Adam Smith

For AC405, I input the then active A321s, A333s, B763s, and E190s of Air Canada, but none gave me the "Unknown Owner" message. I then did the same with Sky Regional's E175s and got the same result, except for C-FEKD's AC7452 YUL-LGA. I decided not to do the same for AC408 (yet) since the results wouldn't change if the flight happened in same period a specific reg for the other flight was blocked. Sorry for being too invested in those flights, it's just that that case really fascinates me. 🥺

No arguing with this, these are definitely found now :)

Found 2018-08-25 AC7787 YYT YQX 2210 2258 BEH Adam Smith (op by 8K, EVS, Exploits Valley Air Services) C-GTMB

If I requested this, apologies, that was a mistake. I think at one point I posted a big batch of flights from May 2018 and accidentally typed 8 as the month instead of 5. I thought those had all been corrected, but perhaps not. So I have no opinion on this one.

What I’m missing for a 7787 is:
2018-05-25 AC7787 YYT YQX 2210 2258 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)

Found 2018-05-28 AC7756 YHZ YYG 1845 1938 BEH Adam Smith (op by 8K, EVS, Exploits Valley Air Services, siehe #5853) C-GLXV
Found 2018-05-28 AC7757 YYG YHZ 1950 2030 BEH Adam Smith (op by 8K, EVS, Exploits Valley Air Services, siehe #5853) C-GLXV

Is this some sort of milk run?

AC7765 YQM-YHZ 17:36-18:20: https://www.flightera.net/en/flight_details/Air+Canada/AC7765/CYQM/2018-05-28
AC7756 YHZ-YYG 18:45-19:38
AC7757 YYG-YHZ 19:50-20:30
AC7773 YHZ-YSJ 20:56-21:29: https://www.flightera.net/en/flight_details/Air+Canada/AC7773/CYHZ/2018-05-28

I’m not sure about this one. YHZ was a hub for AC’s high-frequency short-haul stuff that EVAS operated on the BEHs. The 7771/7772 YSJ pairing would also fit this time gap; 7771 did leave at 18:20, same time 7765 was scheduled to arrive, but 7765 arrived early at 18:04 and the aircraft coming from there could have been turned in 16 minutes to go to YSJ (those BEHs turn quickly). It’s also possible there was another BEH that was sitting around at YHZ that operated the YYG turn.

I think this one is reasonably likely, but not certain.

Found 2018-05-26 AC7782 YQX YYT 0520 0617 BEH Adam Smith (op by 8K, EVS, Exploits Valley Air Services, siehe #5853) C-GAAT

AC7807 YYR-YQX 20:05-22:13: https://www.flightera.net/en/flight_details/Air+Canada/AC7807/CYYR/2018-05-25
AC7782 YQX-YYT 05:20-06:17
AC7789 YYT-YDF 06:40-07:55
AC7788 YDF-YYT 08:07-08:51: https://www.flightera.net/en/flight_details/Air+Canada/AC7788/CYDF/2018-05-26

Wasn’t this solved a while ago? This is what I already have in spreadsheets. So I guess I agree?

Found 2018-06-12 AC7752 YHZ YYG 1225 1303 BEH Adam Smith (op by 8K, EVS, Exploits Valley Air Services) C-GLHO
Found 2018-06-12 AC7753 YYG YHZ 1320 1359 BEH Adam Smith (op by 8K, EVS, Exploits Valley Air Services) C-GLHO

AC7751 YYG-YHZ 09:15-09:55: https://www.flightera.net/en/flight_details/Air+Canada/AC7751/CYYG/2018-06-12
*no departures at YHZ between 08:20 (AC7750) and 12:20 (AC7752)*
AC7752 YHZ-YYG 12:25-12:58
AC7753 YYG-YHZ 13:15-13:54
AC7760 YHZ-YQM 14:15-14:57
AC7763 YQM-YHZ 15:29-15:50: https://www.flightera.net/en/flight_details/Air+Canada/AC7763/CYQM/2018-06-12

I’m not confident in this one either. Like the 7756/7757 pairing above, there would have been several other EVAS BEHs at YHZ that could have operated it, from what I can tell.



I know there are a few others that I need to go through. Unfortunately my travel laptop was fried and it's still in the shop, so I'm a bit limited in what I can do during my extensive travels this month - I couldn't even figure out where these damned C-FTJP flights came from until I realized there were some spreadsheets from one of the friends I had helped that were only in the Downloads folder (not synced to cloud) on the laptop that's out of commission.
 
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No arguing with this, these are definitely found now :)



If I requested this, apologies, that was a mistake. I think at one point I posted a big batch of flights from May 2018 and accidentally typed 8 as the month instead of 5. I thought those had all been corrected, but perhaps not. So I have no opinion on this one.

What I’m missing for a 7787 is:
2018-05-25 AC7787 YYT YQX 2210 2258 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS)



I’m not sure about this one. YHZ was a hub for AC’s high-frequency short-haul stuff that EVAS operated on the BEHs. The 7771/7772 YSJ pairing would also fit this time gap; 7771 did leave at 18:20, same time 7765 was scheduled to arrive, but 7765 arrived early at 18:04 and the aircraft coming from there could have been turned in 16 minutes to go to YSJ (those BEHs turn quickly). It’s also possible there was another BEH that was sitting around at YHZ that operated the YYG turn.

I think this one is reasonably likely, but not certain.



Wasn’t this solved a while ago? This is what I already have in spreadsheets. So I guess I agree?



I’m not confident in this one either. Like the 7756/7757 pairing above, there would have been several other EVAS BEHs at YHZ that could have operated it, from what I can tell.



I know there are a few others that I need to go through. Unfortunately my travel laptop was fried and it's still in the shop, so I'm a bit limited in what I can do during my extensive travels this month - I couldn't even figure out where these damned C-FTJP flights came from until I realized there were some spreadsheets from one of the friends I had helped that were only in the Downloads folder (not synced to cloud) on the laptop that's out of commission.
Found 2018-05-25 AC7787 YYT YQX 2210 2258 BEH Adam Smith (op by EVS) C-FPUB

As for the other EVS flights, those were my findings before using VariFlight. After checking them, nothing changed. I forgot what happened to the AC7782 one, but I think I just repeated it to be sure.

I can go into detail for transparency purposes:

Date: 2018-05-25
Flight Number: AC7787
Route: YYT-YYX
STD: 22:10
ATD: 22:08
Departure Gate: 10
STA: 22:58
ATA: 22:50
Tail Number: C-FPUB

Date: 2018-05-26
Flight Number: AC7782
Route: YQX-YYT
STD: 05:30
ATD: 05:42
Departure Gate: 1
Arrival Gate: 10
STA: 06:18
ATA: 06:12
Tail Number: C-GAAT

Date: 2018-05-28
Flight Number: AC7756
Route: YHZ-YYG
STD: 19:00
ATD: 19:03
Departure Gate: 6
Arrival Gate: 2
STA: 19:38
ATA: 19:30
Tail Number: C-GLXV

Date: 2018-05-28
Flight Number: AC7757
Route: YYG-YHZ
STD: 19:55
ATD: 19:58
Departure Gate: 1B
Arrival Gate: 6
STA: 20:35
ATA: 20:25
Tail Number: C-GLXV

Date: 2018-06-12
Flight Number: AC7752
Route: YHZ-YYG
STD: 12:20
ATD: 12:18
Departure Gate: 7
Arrival Gate: 2
STA: 12:58
ATA: 12:43
Tail Number: C-GLHO

Date: 2018-06-12
Flight Number: AC7753
Route: YYG-YHZ
STD: 13:15
ATD: 13:18
Departure Gate: 1B
Arrival Gate: 7
STA: 13:54
ATA: 13:44
Tail Number: C-GLHO

Source: VariFlight
 
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Hallo zusammen,

ich hatte vor ein paar Wochen u.a. den Flughafen Denpasar kontaktiert und habe gestern eine Antwort bekommen.

Found 2008-09-11 CX0785 HKG DPS 1005 1450 A343 docceejay B-HXF
Found 2008-09-24 SQ0941 DPS SIN 0915 1145 772 docceejay 9V-SRP
Found 2011-09-25 CI0771 TPE DPS 0915 1420 A333 docceejay (vsstl nur B-18391 o. B-18392 in Frage, #2680) B-18307
Found 2011-10-07 CI0772 DPS TPE 1530 2040 A333 docceejay (vsstl nur B-18391 o. B-18392 in Frage, #2680) B-18301

Dabei irritiert mich nun das Ergebnis für den CX-Flug ein wenig. Flightstats gibt für den Flug eine 773 an. Hat jemand eine Ahnung, wie valide die Daten von Flightstats aus dieser Zeit sind? Auf Flugstatistik findet man um den gesuchten Zeitraum herum eigentlich nur 773 oder 744, alledings keine 343.
Hi @docceejay, may I know where or how you asked DPS? I contacted them via their contact form on their website, and they responded to me several minutes later saying that for flight data requests I should send an official letter to the General Manager at a specified address in Kuta. The thing is I don't live in Indonesia. 😓

I'm planning to forward my request to the General Manager's email that was included in their response, but I just want to know how you did it to be sure. Thank you!
 
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