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[Saltagigi]

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@Saltagigi Thank you a lot for this search and finding! I will add the OH-LGC for this flight based on this so it is solid enough for me. Also I started to wonder if I could figure out the other MD11 flight about the same time with same approach. How far back the ACARS logs you used here go and where those collected from Europe? I mean all these where also with Finnair MD-11 back then, so 7 possible planes.

So i used the acarsd.org logs (https://web.archive.org/web/20150706113337/http://www.acarsd.org/world_ACARS_reports/) and they go back to January 2006.
These are logs from all over the world in theory, but there are much fewer logs from Asia, let alone Africa. I think i found some entries from Japan for your flights.
I will add a caution that especially in the early years there are quite a few errors in there, for example I found a Finnair MD-11 flight from HAM to HEL, but that one was logged somewhere around the US East Coast and the time made sense for the JFK flight. So sometimes it's a bit of work to make sense of the logs, but i hope you will find something.

 

[SaschaX99]

@Saltagigi Thank you a lot for this search and finding! I will add the OH-LGC for this flight based on this so it is solid enough for me. Also I started to wonder if I could figure out the other MD11 flight about the same time with same approach. How far back the ACARS logs you used here go and where those collected from Europe? I mean all these where also with Finnair MD-11 back then, so 7 possible planes.

2006-08-05 AY0097 HEL BKK 23:35 13:40 Sinensis
2006-08-11 AY0098 BKK HEL 0:20 6:45 Sinensis
2007-02-05 AY0098 BKK HEL 0:50 6:40 Sinensis
2007-05-21 AY0087 HEL CAN 16:55 7:25 Sinensis

To make it a bit easier for you please find the Acars logs for the dates of your flights.

OH-LGA	MD11	AY	152​	20060804​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Near CYYZ, and CYHM]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	211​	20060804​	AY0000		[Philadelphia]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	345​	20060804​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	2031​	20060804​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Saint-Georges,QC,CA, 100km SE YQB]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	105​	20060805​	AY0000		[nyc]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	150​	20060805​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Saint-Georges,QC,CA, 100km SE YQB]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	411​	20060805​	AY0000		[Osaka Japan.34.47N-135.25E]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	420​	20060805​	AY0078	KIX-HEL	[Osaka Japan.34.47N-135.25E]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	2129​	20060805​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Philadelphia]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	2134​	20060805​	AY0000		[Philadelphia]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	54​	20060806​	AY0079	HEL-NGO	[somewhere]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	939​	20060806​	AY8921	EDDH-EFHK	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	2215​	20060806​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Philadelphia]

OH-LGA	MD11	AY	516​	20060810​	AY0000		[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	1735​	20060812​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	1748​	20060812​	AY0051	HEL-PEK	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	454​	20060810​	AY0078	KIX-HEL	[somewhere]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	1349​	20060810​	AY0000		[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	106​	20060810​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Saint-Georges,QC,CA, 100km SE YQB]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	112​	20060810​	AY0000		[Saint-Georges,QC,CA, 100km SE YQB]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	206​	20060810​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	2239​	20060810​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	738​	20060811​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Saint-Georges,QC,CA, 100km SE YQB]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	1727​	20060811​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	1736​	20060811​	AY0051	HEL-PEK	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	2256​	20060812​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1312​	20060810​	AY0052	PEK-HEL	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1326​	20060810​	AY0000		[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1650​	20060810​	AY0087	HEL-CAN	[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1343​	20060811​	AY0088	CAN-HEL	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1711​	20060812​	AY0067	HEL-HKG	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1711​	20060812​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	1653​	20060811​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	439​	20060812​	AY0078	KIX-HEL	[somewhere]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	1631​	20060812​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1305​	20060810​	AY0080	NGO-HEL	[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1339​	20060810​	AY0000		[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1211​	20060811​	AY0052	PEK-HEL	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	2046​	20060811​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	327​	20060812​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1941​	20060812​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1306​	20060810​	AY0068	HKG-HEL	[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1628​	20060810​	AY0000		[Porvoo, Finland]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1628​	20060811​	AY0000		[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1324​	20060812​	AY0088	CAN-HEL	[Lappeenranta, FINLAND]

OH-LGA	MD11	AY	53​	20070206​	AY0000		[Philadelphia]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	103​	20070206​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[Phoenixville, Pa]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	1700​	20070206​	AY0000		[Tampere, Finland]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	154​	20070205​	AY0077	HEL-KIX	[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	408​	20070205​	AY0000		[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	420​	20070205​	AY0078	KIX-HEL	[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	410​	20070206​	AY0080	NGO-HEL	[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	104​	20070204​	AY0079	HEL-NGO	[somewhere]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	423​	20070204​	AY0080	NGO-HEL	[Narita-(NRT)-Japan]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	1700​	20070206​	AY0000		[Tampere, Finland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1330​	20070204​	AY0052	PEK-HEL	[Tampere, FInland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	2010​	20070204​	AY0095	HEL-BKK	[Tampere, FInland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1721​	20070205​	AY0096	BKK-HEL	[Tampere, FInland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	2307​	20070205​	AY0091	HEL-BKK-HKG	[Tampere, FInland]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	1925​	20070204​	AY0005	EFHF-JFK	[Goose Bay, Canada]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	127​	20070205​	AY0000		[Philadelphia]

OH-LGA	MD11	AY	1324​	20070520​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	1415​	20070521​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	745​	20070522​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGA	MD11	AY	1353​	20070522​	AY0005	HEL-JFK	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	2022​	20070520​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	1702​	20070521​	AY0096		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGB	MD11	AY	1655​	20070522​	AY0096	VTBS-EFHK	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	106​	20070520​	AY0079		[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	434​	20070520​	AY0080	NGO-HEL	[somewhere]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	1926​	20070521​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGC	MD11	AY	1341​	20070522​	AY0052	PEK-HEL	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	55​	20070520​	AY0006	JFK-HEL	[S. New England - USA]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1913​	20070520​	AY0077	HEL-KIX	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	347​	20070521​	AY0000		[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	553​	20070521​	AY0078	KIX-HEL	[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	1652​	20070521​	AY0079	HEL-NGO	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	120​	20070522​	AY0079	HEL-NGO	[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	413​	20070522​	AY0000		[Osaka Japan.]
OH-LGD	MD11	AY	526​	20070522​	AY0080	NGO-HEL	[somewhere]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	537​	20070520​	AY0000		[BEIJING]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	115​	20070521​	AY0057	HEL-PVG	[shanghai]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	1324​	20070521​	AY0058	PVG-HEL	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	550​	20070522​	AY0022	DEL-HEL	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGE	MD11	AY	1324​	20070522​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	107​	20070520​	AY0067	HEL-HKG	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1613​	20070520​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1618​	20070521​	AY0068	HKG-HEL	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1803​	20070521​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGF	MD11	AY	1658​	20070522​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	436​	20070520​	AY0058	PVG-HEL	[shanghai]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1936​	20070520​	AY0051	HEL-PEK	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1322​	20070521​	AY0000		[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	531​	20070522​	AY0000		[Hong Kong]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1524​	20070522​	AY0068	HKG-HEL	[Helsinki, Finland]
OH-LGG	MD11	AY	1918​	20070522​	AY0095	HEL-BKK	[Helsinki, Finland]

 

[gotflyer]

While looking into some of the RJ flights I took:

1987-03-20 RJ0133 AMM LCA 1300 1430 B722 gotflyer
1989-03-30 RJ0134 LCA AMM 1440 1515 B72x gotflyer

I found the following page which discusses the 727s RJ operated over the years.

https://simpleflying.com/royal-jordanian-boeing-727-fleet-history

It seems that for the above flights there are three potential options:

JY-AFT - entered service in early 1980, was sold in 1988.
JY-AFU - entered service in January 1981, was sold in 1996.
JY-AFV - entered service in January of 1981, was sold "after 8 years"

Now this got me excited, as if the last point meant in January of 1989 then JY-AFU could have been the only option in March 1989. Alas, after some googling I found images of both JY-AFT and JY-AFV in RJ livery well into the 1990s. So it seems these two data points where incorrect.

The site claims to fetch its data from atdb.aero, unfortunately to see when a plane left an airline is only available under a professional license.

https://atdb.aero/php/go.php?query=...qstring=B.727-200+of+Royal+Jordanian+Airlines

However narrowing it down to potentially three is always something, does anyone have any resources which can eliminate any of the above regs?