[11/2010] QF A380 nach Explosion notgelandet
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Bild.de vergess mal-bis die wach sind..??
Ein Lob an die Crews in beiden Flügen im Flight deck.
Maintainance:
ich hoffe wohl Oil check ok,
Warum immer ex SIN by Qantas -Sabotage-klar- die armes Aussis sind das Ziel?
Hat RR was zu verbergen???? und ob!
Mit den Ami Triebwerken kam es bis auf einigen Ausfällen (bei 777 ex SQ -da ist nun mal das turbienchen ausgefallen, und die sind nun mals statistisch besser) keine /derartigen ausfaelle?
Bei RR wohl-aber nicht wohl publiziert. zb A 340 (QR)ex 330QR, EK) etc
Selbst LH hat hat schon Erfahrung mit misfunction beim 380 mit RR gehabt.
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Wo soll diese Klage von Pratt&Whitney ./. RollsRoyce denn eingereicht worden sein? Die Auslegung von 'Intellectual Property' ist in den USA z.T. sehr unterschiedlich gehandhabt.
Zudem waeren da ja auch strafrechtlich relevante Dinge wie Industriespionage, noch dazu ins Ausland, mit verbunden. Evtl wieder viel heisse Triebwerksluft um nichts um negative Presse zu produzieren!? Wenn P&W diese genialen Ideen hatte welche RR angeblich gestohlen haben soll, warum hat man dann nicht als erstes ein viel besseres Produkt auf den Markt gebracht. Selbst bei Bekanntwerden einiger Komponenten dauert der Entwicklungsprozess Jahre. Siehe China.
Zudem waeren da ja auch strafrechtlich relevante Dinge wie Industriespionage, noch dazu ins Ausland, mit verbunden. Evtl wieder viel heisse Triebwerksluft um nichts um negative Presse zu produzieren!? Wenn P&W diese genialen Ideen hatte welche RR angeblich gestohlen haben soll, warum hat man dann nicht als erstes ein viel besseres Produkt auf den Markt gebracht. Selbst bei Bekanntwerden einiger Komponenten dauert der Entwicklungsprozess Jahre. Siehe China.
Das haben sie ja scheinbar gemacht, denn von den P&W A380 Triebwerken hat man keine Probleme berichtet.....
Stimmt es nun eigentlich, dass zwischen Landung und Verlassen des Flugzeuges 90 Min lagen. Also ich möchte nicht nach einem solchen Vorfall weitere 90 Min. in einem Flugzeug mit beschädigtem Tank ohne Klimatisierung sitzen.
Leider weiß ich nicht mehr wo ich das mit den 90 Min aufgeschnappt habe, daher meine Frage.
Leider weiß ich nicht mehr wo ich das mit den 90 Min aufgeschnappt habe, daher meine Frage.
Albtraum-Landung
Eineinhalb Stunden kreist die Maschine, um Benzin abzulassen. Vollbetankt ist der Airbus zu schwer für die Landung.
Um 11.56 Uhr setzt der Kapitän das riesige Flugzeug sicher am Changi Airport in Singapur auf: „Wir klatschten, lachten, einige umarmten sich“, sagt Waschbusch, der Albtraum ist vorbei. Die Passagiere, darunter auch die neun Österreicher, werden in Bussen in Hotels gebracht. Heute um 10.30 Uhr geht die Reise weiter.
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Eineinhalb Stunden kreist die Maschine, um Benzin abzulassen. Vollbetankt ist der Airbus zu schwer für die Landung.
Um 11.56 Uhr setzt der Kapitän das riesige Flugzeug sicher am Changi Airport in Singapur auf: „Wir klatschten, lachten, einige umarmten sich“, sagt Waschbusch, der Albtraum ist vorbei. Die Passagiere, darunter auch die neun Österreicher, werden in Bussen in Hotels gebracht. Heute um 10.30 Uhr geht die Reise weiter.
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"Weil aus dem Triebwerk Benzin auslief, mussten die Passagiere zunächst noch mit dem Aussteigen warten. „Da wurden viele Leute nervöser als vorher“, sagte Waschbusch. Die Klimaanlage des Flugzeugs fiel aus, und die Temperatur an Bord stieg in dem tropischen Klima schnell."
Passagier nach Notlandung: „Ich sah Teile aus dem Flügel brechen“ - Hintergründe - Gesellschaft - FAZ.NET
Ich bezog mich mehr darauf. Kann natürlich sein, dass hier die 90 Min teilweise in den Meldungen vermischt wurden.
Passagier nach Notlandung: „Ich sah Teile aus dem Flügel brechen“ - Hintergründe - Gesellschaft - FAZ.NET
Ich bezog mich mehr darauf. Kann natürlich sein, dass hier die 90 Min teilweise in den Meldungen vermischt wurden.
Qantas to change engines on two A380s
By Will Horton
Qantas Airways will change two Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines on its A380 aircraft as a result of ongoing inspections following the fleet's grounding on Thursday.
The number three engine on an A380, registration VH-OQC, will be changed after an inspection in Sydney found abnormalities including an oil leak, say sources familiar with the matter. Another Qantas A380 currently grounded in Los Angeles will have one of its engines changed due to unspecified problems.
The abnormalities in the number three engine of VH-OQC could have potentially led to a repeat of Thursday's incident on QF32, sources say.
Qantas could not be reached for comment. Earlier today Qantas general manager David Epstein said Qantas and Rolls-Royce engineers were inspecting engines one-by-one on three A380s in Los Angeles and one in Sydney. Each engine takes up to eight hours to inspect.
The carrier's fifth A380 is undergoing a scheduled C-check at Lufthansa Technik in Frankfurt while the sixth A380, the aircraft involved in Thursday's incident, is undergoing a separate inspection.
Inspections for the carrier's serviceable A380s may not be complete for a number of days, Epstein says. He warns repair periods "could take some time".
Further delays may occur if the demand for spare engines exceeds worldwide spares, Epstein says. "As far as engines go, there are not a lot of Trent [900] engines around the world." Airlines worldwide have taken delivery of only 20 Trent-powered A380 aircraft, according to Flightglobal's ACAS database.
In Thursday's incident, Qantas' A380 VH-OQA experienced an uncontained failure in its number two engine approximately six minutes after departing Singapore's Changi Airport for Sydney. Debris struck the aircraft's port wing and fell over Indonesia.
The aircraft safely returned to Singapore but with only half of its ailerons working, footage from the incident shows. Additionally, the crew were not able to control the number one engine, leading firefighters to hose down the engine to forcibly shut it down.
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce says one aircraft could return to service as early as tomorrow. "We are hopeful it is within days [that] the A380 fleet will start flying again. We are happy to proceed if no adverse findings come out of [inspections from] those jets."
Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines also operate A380 aircraft with Rolls-Royce engines. Singapore Airlines says it inspected its 11 A380 aircraft and cleared them to return to service. Lufthansa says it is inspecting its three A380s.
Engine Alliance powers the Air France and Emirates A380s.
As a result of the grounding Qantas has delayed some A380 flights, swapped aircraft, and charted aircraft from fellow OneWorld carrier British Airways.
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By Will Horton
Qantas Airways will change two Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines on its A380 aircraft as a result of ongoing inspections following the fleet's grounding on Thursday.
The number three engine on an A380, registration VH-OQC, will be changed after an inspection in Sydney found abnormalities including an oil leak, say sources familiar with the matter. Another Qantas A380 currently grounded in Los Angeles will have one of its engines changed due to unspecified problems.
The abnormalities in the number three engine of VH-OQC could have potentially led to a repeat of Thursday's incident on QF32, sources say.
Qantas could not be reached for comment. Earlier today Qantas general manager David Epstein said Qantas and Rolls-Royce engineers were inspecting engines one-by-one on three A380s in Los Angeles and one in Sydney. Each engine takes up to eight hours to inspect.
The carrier's fifth A380 is undergoing a scheduled C-check at Lufthansa Technik in Frankfurt while the sixth A380, the aircraft involved in Thursday's incident, is undergoing a separate inspection.
Inspections for the carrier's serviceable A380s may not be complete for a number of days, Epstein says. He warns repair periods "could take some time".
Further delays may occur if the demand for spare engines exceeds worldwide spares, Epstein says. "As far as engines go, there are not a lot of Trent [900] engines around the world." Airlines worldwide have taken delivery of only 20 Trent-powered A380 aircraft, according to Flightglobal's ACAS database.
In Thursday's incident, Qantas' A380 VH-OQA experienced an uncontained failure in its number two engine approximately six minutes after departing Singapore's Changi Airport for Sydney. Debris struck the aircraft's port wing and fell over Indonesia.
The aircraft safely returned to Singapore but with only half of its ailerons working, footage from the incident shows. Additionally, the crew were not able to control the number one engine, leading firefighters to hose down the engine to forcibly shut it down.
Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce says one aircraft could return to service as early as tomorrow. "We are hopeful it is within days [that] the A380 fleet will start flying again. We are happy to proceed if no adverse findings come out of [inspections from] those jets."
Lufthansa and Singapore Airlines also operate A380 aircraft with Rolls-Royce engines. Singapore Airlines says it inspected its 11 A380 aircraft and cleared them to return to service. Lufthansa says it is inspecting its three A380s.
Engine Alliance powers the Air France and Emirates A380s.
As a result of the grounding Qantas has delayed some A380 flights, swapped aircraft, and charted aircraft from fellow OneWorld carrier British Airways.
Quelle: flightglobal
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Sydney (dpa) - Die australische Fluggesellschaft Qantas lässt ihre A380-Flotte bis auf weiteres am Boden. Grund: Bei drei aus dem Verkehr gezogenen Maschinen wurden Öllecks im Triebwerk festgestellt. Die Tests waren gemacht worden, nachdem ein Riesen-Airbus von Qantas vergangene Woche nach einem Triebwerkausfall in Singapur notlanden musste. Noch ist unklar, welche Teile des Triebwerks für die Probleme verantwortlich sind. Der Airbus A380 ist erst 2007 in den Dienst gestellt worden.
Sydney (dpa) - Die australische Fluggesellschaft Qantas lässt ihre A380-Flotte bis auf weiteres am Boden. Grund: Bei drei aus dem Verkehr gezogenen Maschinen wurden Öllecks im Triebwerk festgestellt. Die Tests waren gemacht worden, nachdem ein Riesen-Airbus von Qantas vergangene Woche nach einem Triebwerkausfall in Singapur notlanden musste. Noch ist unklar, welche Teile des Triebwerks für die Probleme verantwortlich sind. Der Airbus A380 ist erst 2007 in den Dienst gestellt worden.
Die Aktion ging von flysurfer aus, Sinn ist es die Award-Verfügbarkeit zu erhöhen!
Rolls-Royce räumt Trent-900-Probleme ein
Triebwerksfragmente werden untersucht:
Die mit der Aufklärung der Triebwerksexplosion an einem Qantas-A380 betraute australische Behörde für Transportsicherheit (ATSB) hat erste Triebwerksteilefragmente zum Hersteller Rolls-Royce überführt.
Dieser räumte inzwischen ein, dass es Probleme bei der Trent-900-Familie gibt
Rolls-Royce räumt Trent-900-Probleme ein - MRO - Technik - airliners.de
Triebwerksfragmente werden untersucht:
Die mit der Aufklärung der Triebwerksexplosion an einem Qantas-A380 betraute australische Behörde für Transportsicherheit (ATSB) hat erste Triebwerksteilefragmente zum Hersteller Rolls-Royce überführt.
Dieser räumte inzwischen ein, dass es Probleme bei der Trent-900-Familie gibt
Rolls-Royce räumt Trent-900-Probleme ein - MRO - Technik - airliners.de
Singapore Airlines changes engines
Carrier says it will be changing Airbus A380 oil-stained engines on advice from Rolls Royce, after Qantas flight drama.
Last Modified: 10 Nov 2010 06:13 GMT
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Singapore Airlines is switching three of its A380 engines as a "precautionary" measure [EPA]
Singapore Airlines says it will be changing its A380 Rolls Royce engines in the wake of the incident during a Qantas flight.
Singapore Airlines (SIA) announced on Wednesday that it plans to switch the engines on three of its Airbus A380 planes as a "precautionary" measure after finding oil stains on them, almost a week after Qantas, its Australian rival, grounded its own A380 fleet due to an engine failure.
"Based on further analysis of inspection findings as the investigation into last week's incident involving another operator's Airbus A380 is progressing, Singapore Airlines will be carrying out precautionary engine changes on three A380s," the carrier said in a statement.
Qantas's six A380s have been grounded for nearly a week, when a Rolls Royce engine partly disintegrated mid-flight, forcing the plane to make an emergency landing.
The incident has triggered investigations into oil leaks inside the Rolls Royce Trent engines - the same model used to power Singapore Airlines' A380 fleet.
Rolls Royce moved to limit the crisis of confidence on Monday, saying it was making progress in finding out what caused last week's blowout on the Qantas flight.
'Design flaw'
Singapore Airlines said the oil stains were unrelated to the Qantas problems.
"We apologise to our customers for flights disruptions that may result," a spokesperson for the airline said.
Singapore Airlines said the three A380s would be equipped with new engines of the same model, with a minor variation. A380 flights out of Melbourne and Sydney were cancelled on Wednesday.
Qantas said last week that a design flaw could be to blame for the engine explosion on a Sydney-bound flight.
Shukor Yusof, an aviation analyst for Standard and Poor, said the ongoing problems with the engines would give the Airbus A380’s reputation "a bit of a dent, given this is the flagship carrier of SIA, Emirates and other airlines".
"The incident has been detrimental to the image of the A380s and casts a shadow on the residual value of the aircraft... given that it is relatively new in the market," he said.
Rolls Royce shares have tumbled since the Qantas A380 plane was forced to make its emergency landing in Singapore.
On Tuesday, the British firm - which had kept a low profile since the incident last week - said they were making progress in understanding the cause of the blowout.
"It is now clear this incident is specific to the Trent 900 engine," it said in a statement on Wednesday.
"As a result, a series of checks and inspections has been agreed with Airbus, with operators of the Trent 900 powered A380 and with the airworthiness authorities," it added.
"These are being progressively completed, which is allowing a resumption of operation of aircraft in full compliance with all safety standards".
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Carrier says it will be changing Airbus A380 oil-stained engines on advice from Rolls Royce, after Qantas flight drama.
Last Modified: 10 Nov 2010 06:13 GMT
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Singapore Airlines is switching three of its A380 engines as a "precautionary" measure [EPA]
Singapore Airlines says it will be changing its A380 Rolls Royce engines in the wake of the incident during a Qantas flight.
Singapore Airlines (SIA) announced on Wednesday that it plans to switch the engines on three of its Airbus A380 planes as a "precautionary" measure after finding oil stains on them, almost a week after Qantas, its Australian rival, grounded its own A380 fleet due to an engine failure.
"Based on further analysis of inspection findings as the investigation into last week's incident involving another operator's Airbus A380 is progressing, Singapore Airlines will be carrying out precautionary engine changes on three A380s," the carrier said in a statement.
Qantas's six A380s have been grounded for nearly a week, when a Rolls Royce engine partly disintegrated mid-flight, forcing the plane to make an emergency landing.
The incident has triggered investigations into oil leaks inside the Rolls Royce Trent engines - the same model used to power Singapore Airlines' A380 fleet.
Rolls Royce moved to limit the crisis of confidence on Monday, saying it was making progress in finding out what caused last week's blowout on the Qantas flight.
'Design flaw'
Singapore Airlines said the oil stains were unrelated to the Qantas problems.
"We apologise to our customers for flights disruptions that may result," a spokesperson for the airline said.
Singapore Airlines said the three A380s would be equipped with new engines of the same model, with a minor variation. A380 flights out of Melbourne and Sydney were cancelled on Wednesday.
Qantas said last week that a design flaw could be to blame for the engine explosion on a Sydney-bound flight.
Shukor Yusof, an aviation analyst for Standard and Poor, said the ongoing problems with the engines would give the Airbus A380’s reputation "a bit of a dent, given this is the flagship carrier of SIA, Emirates and other airlines".
"The incident has been detrimental to the image of the A380s and casts a shadow on the residual value of the aircraft... given that it is relatively new in the market," he said.
Rolls Royce shares have tumbled since the Qantas A380 plane was forced to make its emergency landing in Singapore.
On Tuesday, the British firm - which had kept a low profile since the incident last week - said they were making progress in understanding the cause of the blowout.
"It is now clear this incident is specific to the Trent 900 engine," it said in a statement on Wednesday.
"As a result, a series of checks and inspections has been agreed with Airbus, with operators of the Trent 900 powered A380 and with the airworthiness authorities," it added.
"These are being progressively completed, which is allowing a resumption of operation of aircraft in full compliance with all safety standards".
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Und hier der o.g. Artikel zusammengefasst auf Deutsch:
Singapore Airlines tauscht Motoren von A380-Maschinen aus | Top-Nachrichten | Reuters
Singapore Airlines tauscht Motoren von A380-Maschinen aus | Top-Nachrichten | Reuters
Das muss Balsam für die LH Technik sein:
Q: Das legendäre Qantas-Image bekommt Kratzer - dpa-Ticker - Unternehmen - Handelsblatt.com
Interview mit einem der QF32 Piloten:
EXCLUSIVE - Qantas QF32 flight from the cockpit | Aerospace Insight | The Royal Aeronautical Society
Boy oh Boy , war das Ernst!
EXCLUSIVE - Qantas QF32 flight from the cockpit | Aerospace Insight | The Royal Aeronautical Society
Boy oh Boy , war das Ernst!
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Ach du sch--- ! Also, wenn man die Hälfte gelesen hat, glaubt man nur deswegen noch daran, dass die Kiste halbwegs heile unten angekommen ist, weil der Typ es noch erzählen kann...
Der Spiegel hat das Interview (mehr oder weniger korrekt) in einem Artikel wiedergegeben: Qantas-A380-Zwischenfall: "Am gefährlichsten war die Zeit nach der Landung" - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Reise
Gruesse,
Tim
Gruesse,
Tim
Die verunglückte Maschine soll bis Ende 2011 repariert werden:
Qantas's damaged A380 to return to service this year
Qantas's damaged A380 to return to service this year
Rolls Royce zahlt 95 Mio. AUD Schadenersatz an Qantas:
Qantas underlying profit to surge as carrier reaches deal on Rolls-Royce A380 engine | The Australian
Qantas underlying profit to surge as carrier reaches deal on Rolls-Royce A380 engine | The Australian